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11-14-2005, 02:23 PM #1
Can someone please critique this diet..
I am planning on running a carb cycle diet in which I do three days of low/moderate carbs and then bump them up on the 4th day, here it is..
BTW- I am 230 at about 16-17 percent right now and I am looking to get down to around 9-10 percent. I will be running 6 kits of Jin, 500 mgs of Primo for 12 weeks, and about 30-40mgs ED of Anavar for 8 weeks..
Low Carb
Meal 1 3/4 cup oatmeal
6 eggwhites
1/2 grapefruit
1 Tablespoon Flax
Meal 2
Oatmeal 3/4 cup
6 eggwhites
Meal 3
5oz yams
4oz Grilled Chicken
1 Cup Broccoli
Meal 4
5oz Grilled Chicken
10 Asparugus Spears Grilled
1 Tablespoon of Flax
Meal 5
Myoplex shake
Meal 6
Tuna
Cup Broccoli
High carb
Meal 1
Shredded Wheat 1.5 cups
Skim Milk 2 Cups
1/2 Grapefruit
Meal 2
2/3 cip Oatmeal
5 Eggwhites
1Whole egg
Meal 3
1 Cup Brown Rice
5oz Grilled Chicken
1 Cup Broccoli
Meal 4
5 oz Grilled Chicken
6oz Green beans
Meal 5
5 oz Chicken Breast
10 Asparugus spears
1 Tablespoon Flax
Meal 6
Tuna
1 cup Broccoli
1/s Tablespoon Flax
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11-14-2005, 02:58 PM #2
Bump...Anyone..Information would be much appreciated!
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11-14-2005, 03:01 PM #3
Where are you pre and post workout meals?
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11-14-2005, 03:06 PM #4Originally Posted by Giantz11
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11-14-2005, 03:09 PM #5Originally Posted by FranKieC
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11-14-2005, 03:12 PM #6
Why such low protein content per meal? Any reason?
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11-14-2005, 03:14 PM #7Originally Posted by Giantz11
Lower carb is 2200 cals 240 grams protien 162 carbs 55 grams fat
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11-14-2005, 03:16 PM #8Originally Posted by usualsuspect
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11-14-2005, 03:17 PM #9Originally Posted by FranKieC
oh and var dose looks very low and, no test? why?Last edited by fitnessguy; 11-14-2005 at 04:24 PM.
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11-14-2005, 03:18 PM #10
BTW just an FYi if ya didnt see I am trying to cut down about 7 percent.. The higher carb meal is right around my maintance cals for the day and then I dropped the lower carb to around 2200 cals 500 under maintance..
I hope I did this right but if not I will revamp because I want to start this tommorrow..
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11-14-2005, 03:20 PM #11Originally Posted by fitnessguy
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11-14-2005, 03:20 PM #12Originally Posted by fitnessguy
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11-14-2005, 03:20 PM #13
oh yes and drop the flax in meal 1 of low carb. i didn't see the oatmeal...
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11-14-2005, 03:23 PM #14Originally Posted by Giantz11
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11-14-2005, 03:27 PM #15
No, all milk has 13g of sugar per 8oz. That sugar is Lactose, which happens to be very hard to digest, which is why some people bloat up cause theya re lactose intolerant. Skim has max GI rating of about 42, making it one of the lowest GI foods that you can eat. So even though the label reads sugar, its very misleading.
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11-14-2005, 03:27 PM #16
Thanks for all of the information Bro's.. I will be starting the transformation tommorrow and I will keep the results updated.. Btw I will be also doing 45 min cardio 4x's a week..
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11-14-2005, 03:38 PM #17Originally Posted by Giantz11
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11-14-2005, 03:46 PM #18
maybe the shredded wheat is throwing me off...but it seems like your low carb day has the same amount of carbs as the high days...? im guessing the myoplex shake has 42g carbs (if i remember correctly)
low:
3/4c oats - 39g
1/2 grapefruit - 12g
3/4c oats - 39g
5oz yam - 34g
myoplex shake - 42g
total - 166g
plus you said you have whey/dex shakes after workouts
high:
1 1/2c shredded wheat - 65g (estimate)
milk - 16g
1/2 grapefruit - 12g
2/3c oats - 34g
1c brown rice - 46g
total: 173g
am i missing something???
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11-14-2005, 03:46 PM #19Originally Posted by Giantz11
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11-14-2005, 03:50 PM #20
THe other side of the coin
Although milk has a low gi rating, studies have shown that milk seems to release insulin out of proportion with their glycemic index (or the rate of glucose appearance into the blood). In a few studies last year published in the British Journal of Nutrition, milk was discussed as a highly insulin-releasing drink (Br J Nutr 2000 Mar;83 Suppl 1:S149-55).
A few other studies were conducted to examine what component (the lactose, the protein, etc) of milk actually leads to this large insulin release. It appears that it's not the lactose content that leads to the insulin response since both normal skim milk and low-lactose skim milk lead to the same high insulin levels (Z Ernahrungswiss 1987 Mar; 26(1): 52-5.). From this work, it appears that the interaction between either the protein components of milk and perhaps some other unknown components of milk may be responsible for the insulin release.
Originally Posted by Giantz11
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11-14-2005, 03:57 PM #21
I don't know one bodybuilder that includes milk (skim or whatever) in their diet. I can see if you are bulking, but anyone interested in fat-loss, milk is not an ideal carb source. Actually its far from ideal. I can probably name at least 10 other carb sources that are much better than milk for improving your physique.
Originally Posted by Giantz11
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11-14-2005, 03:59 PM #22Originally Posted by usualsuspect
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11-14-2005, 04:00 PM #23Originally Posted by usualsuspect
I on the other hand know plenty, and I'm not sure why its not a good carb source as I responded to you insulin issue above.
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11-14-2005, 04:14 PM #24Originally Posted by xtinaunasty
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11-14-2005, 04:16 PM #25
I'm not questioning your knowledge bro. It's quite evident that you know your stuff. I'm simply presenting a different viewpoint.
Originally Posted by Giantz11
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11-14-2005, 04:20 PM #26
It's all good. I just think that Milk has been misrepresented at times. It has a great amino specrtum and while it might not be the best carb source, it is low gi, which many people don't realize and will not impact blood sugar negatively. And its loaded with calcum and other vitamins.
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11-14-2005, 04:21 PM #27
i found this on the net: and honestly, i never knew of this... but i'm still not drinkin milk in a cutter
5. How long does it take our body to metabolize our sugar intake? It takes two to three hours for your body to completely metabolize your food or drink intake.
6. What drink gives the body the largest sugar high? Drinks such as pop, and juices that have a high sugar value give you the largest sugar high.
7. What drink helps the body to maintain the normal sugar high? Natural juices or skim milk would be examples of things that do not change your sugar high because they do not have additional sugars or ingredients in them.
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11-14-2005, 04:23 PM #28
thanks again for bringing that to my attention Giantz
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11-14-2005, 04:40 PM #29
I see your point man. That's just the thing. This has been an interesting topic for many years with no clear evidence pointing us one way or another. All said and done, milk certainly has its place in some diet's. If your on bulking diet, milk is a good addition. But if you are cutting (and perhaps prone to fat gain), I'd rather play it safe and pass up on milk. That's just me.
Originally Posted by Giantz11
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11-14-2005, 05:13 PM #30Originally Posted by FranKieC
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11-14-2005, 07:47 PM #31Originally Posted by xtinaunasty
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