Thread: Bodybuilding Secrets Revealed
12-11-2005, 10:29 PM #1
Bodybuilding Secrets Revealed
I liked this article, thought I'd share it...from Schak @ Universal.
Home Economics 101
Be prepared… This is going to be a rough ride. I'm not saying you want to do this all the time but once in awhile you can be different.
So you wanna be a “bodybuilder”… Of course, you know how to diet, train, what supplements to take… You're on your way. The way I see it, you're probably on your way back to the drawing board. Maybe you're one of those people who makes everything technical: “Well if I up my carbohydrate meals by 20%, I should be able to gain about 20 pounds of muscle in the off-season” or on the other hand, “Maybe if I only eat one or two meal(s) less, I can decrease my body fat by 5% and be ready for a show within the next three months.”
Some of these approaches are so full of shit, I can smell it. Go ahead, spend all your time on the computer looking at those bodybuilding chat rooms where guys argue, “What is leaner, chicken or tuna?” Everyone thinks they know it all, but putting it into perspective, they often don't know shit. The reality is priceless--everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but few want to lift heavy weights or eat the shit that they should be eating. I am here today to make you well aware of what you should be doing and not what you're doing. We will dissect the word “bodybuilding” and draw three conclusions: What is good, bad, and necessary when it comes to dieting.
Taking into consideration that you are in your mid 20s, about 5'8'', and weighing a sleek 170, your “off-season” (as beginners like to call it) is not about upping your calories by a whopping 500 “clean” calories to promote tremendous growth. Your potential is being limited by so many of these empty theories. I am going to let you in on a little secret that has only been around for about 40 years or so: If you wanna grow, eat. Red meat, eggs, potatoes, pancakes, pasta, rice (don't listen to anyone--it does not matter whether it is white or brown), chicken, and, believe it or not, bread. These are some of your friends. These are the friends you should be hanging out with anywhere between 6-8 times a day. Go out, have a beer and relax… Try to get laid--it is a good de-stressor.
I know what you're thinking: “But what if all these unwanted calories, carbohydrates, and fats make me look bloated, smooth, and quite possibly (don't say it, please don't say it…) fat?” Who ****in cares?!? Do you think all the top competitors were never fat at one point in their career? You think that Mr. Olympia got to be 296 pounds on stage by monitoring his caloric intake in the “off-season”? He also realizes that eating even when you're not hungry is and always will be an evil necessity to this sport. No one I know ever grew by eating chicken in a salad with a tablespoon of oil and balsamic vinegar… Some of these guys--waiting for them to make gains is like watching grass grow. A 2,000-2,500 calorie diet should not even be a thought. Remember, it is okay to get big; it is part of the sport.
Here's another secret that you may have not heard in the past 20 years: Lifting weights does not make you grow. Lifting actually breaks down muscle until you feed it. So when you feed, feed well. If you want to grow, put down the 4 ounces of chicken and broccoli and opt for Burger King (Wendy's is my favorite) now and then, or about a pound of steak and some baked potatoes. And yeah, throw in a lean protein shake for shits and giggles. Again let's go back to the word “bodybuilding”--forming a body with the correct symmetry, hardness, muscle density, vascularity, and leanness--the kind of physique that causes everyone to look at you and say, “Damn, who's that?!?” However, in order to do this, you must first build a base--not by dieting, but by getting “thick”.
Now let's move on to what novices like to call “dieting” or “pre-contest”. By now, after a good year or two, you should weigh 210, solidly built, strong as an ox and be banging any girl who even seems remotely interested (don't be misled, girls still dig big guys). Let's diet… What do I mean? Let's carve out a specimen. How do we do that you ask? “Well we will only eat 5 meals of low sodium low fat tuna out of a can with asparagus on the side for about 16 weeks, creating a flat, emaciated version of the same physique.” Are you out of your ****ing mind? Brother, listen to me… By the time you go onstage, weeds would have more thickness than you, but you will be shredded.
This is neither what you want nor what the judges want to see; they get paid for critiquing a physique, not thrashing another body onstage. The same principles apply to dieting as they do to getting big, but in a different context. Calories are kept high; feed your body to maintain muscle and possibly gain, do your cardio consistently and keep the training the same (Don't do more reps with a lighter weight--it is a waste of your time and energy; get a pump doing 10-12 reps and go home, period).
Although the same principles apply, calories must be cleaner and meals should be more frequent. If you are doing everything correctly, you should be eating every two hours. Do the math: Start at 6:00 am and end at 10:00pm (don't ask me if it is okay to eat that late--I will beat you like a red-headed stepchild). That is about 9-10 meals a day. What kind of meals you ask? Not cheesecake or French fries, but a cleaner consumption of food (lean meats such as chicken, steak, fish; good fats such as peanut butter, flaxseed oil, or almonds; and good sources of carbohydrates such as baked or sweet potatoes, rice, green vegetables). In other words, almost the total opposite of what you were eating before.
Remember, your body needs to burn off some source of energy from fat or carbs before it hits protein. You do not want to burn protein--then, my friend, you're burning all that muscle you have worked so hard for. Some guys diet using fat and protein. Other guys diet using carbs and protein. There is no secret to this either… Use whatever your body adapts to better. True, tuna and asparagus will cut fat, but it will put you right back to step 1--recognizing that something ain't right. A pre-contest diet sucks. I mean let's face it, going from eating everything that tastes good to everything that is dry and hard to swallow (make sure you drink plenty of water to wash down that dry chicken or can of tuna) is not exactly an easy transition. But remember, it is all part of this necessary evil that I talk about in this sport.
Now since I have shed some light on the subject of bodybuilding and have shown you both sides of the coin, you should be sick and tired of food, but more knowledgeable. You will not know everything… This is just a base for you to start with. Don't get me wrong, some of you will cheat on your diet, probably not eat enough in the off-season and do the exact opposite of everything I just talked about. But the few who have comprehended and absorbed the information will be in a good position when they compete… First.
12-11-2005, 10:44 PM #2
some of this is kind of ridiculous, i mean wendy's as a good PWO...and eating anything you want b/c you're in the off season is nuts..it's quality now quantity..i'm not the most strict on my diet but i certainly don't eat whatever i want
12-11-2005, 10:48 PM #3
A lot of it sounds ridiculous, yes. I'm not saying I follow a diet anywhere near this...it was just interesting. He does say at the beginning "I'm not saying you want to do this all the time but once in awhile you can be different.
Probably more aimed toward ectomorphs.
12-12-2005, 03:49 AM #4
Does seem a little extreme, but its good general knowledge for beginners and such.
12-12-2005, 06:13 AM #5Originally Posted by Austex
this guy is fcking moron
of course you expect to add a bit of fat while bulking, but would you rather half of your gains be fat or 1/8 of your gains
you dont wana be a total lard ass so that you have to work extra hard to get back into shape for like 17weeks
12-12-2005, 08:19 AM #6
The Wendy's part was my favorite. You mean it's not better than chicken and broccoli? Dammit. "Super Size Me" ring a bell?
Remember, this diet is aimed at ectomorphs and WILL ONLY work when stacked with Animal Test, Animal Pak, and Animal Methoxy Pak.
12-12-2005, 08:27 AM #7
MMmmmmm............I think not. This is a retarded thread (theres lots of em around lately)
12-12-2005, 09:15 AM #8AR Hall of Fame
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No thanks to these methods.
12-12-2005, 11:33 AM #9
mmmmmm maybe Flex2winny should have a look
12-12-2005, 01:46 PM #10
Just how in the hell could that guy write that crap and look at himself in the mirror is beyond me?
12-12-2005, 02:39 PM #11
not even a ecto would gain from going to wendys. Even if the fat doesnt get stored it still wrecks havoc with your health. Bodybuilding is suposed to be healthy.
12-12-2005, 08:19 PM #12
Doesnt seem to outlandish, if u see pics of some of the big time bodybuilders in "off season" they look pretty shitty. IMO u gotta take this for what it is, will it work, yea im sure it will, but im also sure that pro bodybuilders who use this type of method use serious AAS that allows them to balloon in weight, gaing 30 lbs then losing it no problem, most peopel can not train liek this, but he has a point in saying u dont become a 300lb beast over night eating salads n chicken , and olny upping ur cals intake bye 500, just not for most people
12-12-2005, 10:34 PM #13Originally Posted by Machdiesel
you dont become a 300 lbs beast overnight if you were hooked up to GH intravenously..and if you look at the bulking sticky, there isnt one salad in there...there are plenty of ways to get extra calories w/o hitting up the fast food joint..there are a few bodybuilders that get extreme in the offseason (i.e lee priest) but to me thats ignorance, it's your job and you should be doin it to the best of your ability IMO..no one wants to see a huge asss gut like lee's even in the off season...i have a friend who competes and his bulking diet is almost cleaner than what i eat to cut, andm he hasnt made a dime from the sport...
12-13-2005, 08:01 PM #14
Hey man i agreee with you, just playing devils advocate, u wont see me at a fast food joint while bulking, just making a point,, i dont agree with these methods, but they r def used bye many, neway im gonan go eat some egg salad with low fat mayo, ill save the wendys for PWO
12-13-2005, 09:48 PM #15
gotta be an ecto. i dont think he really means to eat fast food whenever u want. from what i understand he is trying to say dont be such a fag on your bulk that you have to ask the publix where the sugar free ketchup is. sounds to me that he means on a bulk you dont really need to think quite so much about what you eat, just be sensible and eat a lot of it. i believe he sees us a computer geeks who try to understand every little bit of everything we read when in reality to bulk you should just eats assloads of decent food. does that make sense? just an interpretation i guess
12-14-2005, 05:59 AM #16Originally Posted by steve0
he has probably tried it already - but only for a week - till he found another inapropriate diet
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