12-15-2005, 11:52 AM #1
My Cutting Diet and Supplement Plan.
Okay so I have been cutting for 2 weeks now and so far have seen great results due too many mornings of 45 minute cardio and clenbuterol ...but now I am off the clen and am worried about losing muscle without it. first I will post my diet....
breakfast: 10 egg whites, 1/2 cup of oatmeal
pwo: 800mg of ALA followed by Nlarge2 shake with 56 grams of protein and 86 grams of high GI carbs
ppwo: 1 can of tuna fish and 1/2 cup of oatmeal
lunch: 50 grams of whey and 2 tbsp of flax seed oil
dinner: 8 oz. of chicken and 2 heads of broccoli
dinner 2: 1 1/2 cups of 4% fat cottage cheese and 1/4 cup of natural almonds
now for the supplements:
-pre-cardio: 1 1/2 grams of acetyl L-carnitine, 5 grams of glutamine, BCAAs
-before every meal: amino burst 3000 (basic amino supplement to help improve protein synthesis)
-preworkout:500mg of tribulus terrestris, 5 grams of glutamine, NoXplode, BCAAs, and 1 1/2 grams of Acetyl L-Carnitine
-before bed: ZMA, 5 grams of glutamine
-supps i take with meals throughout the day-10 grams of Vitamin C, 1200 IUs of Vitamin E, gnc megamen multivitamin, glucosamine/chondroitin/msm.
i have a cheat day once a week and i do morning cardio for 45 minutes 5-6 times a week along with weight training 4-5 times a week.
how does everything look as far as diet and supplementation goes? i would like to thank everyone ahead of time for their advice...oh by the way today is my birthday
Last edited by kaptainkeezy04; 12-15-2005 at 11:54 AM.
12-15-2005, 11:58 AM #2Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
Only other thing is, I'd ditch the glutamine if you are eating protein then its not needed at all.
12-15-2005, 01:46 PM #3
I agree w/giantz but I would also suggest dropping the cottage cheese in favor of some casien or egg whites. the cottage cheese may work fine for you so if you are still seeing results i wouldnt change it. but i know i dont respond well to dairy when cutting. jmo.
12-15-2005, 02:03 PM #4Originally Posted by xtinaunasty
12-15-2005, 10:33 PM #5
bump...any other thoughts yall?
12-16-2005, 12:38 AM #6
I agree with Giantz11 and the only other thing is add one more prot/fat meal. I say this because if my calculations are right your diet is about 270gr of protein may want to be higher to help preserve muscle IMO. If my numbers are wrong then don't worry everything else looks alright except I am like Xtinaunasty and dairy sensitive when cutting.
12-16-2005, 08:02 AM #7Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
Cottage cheese has no sugars, you shouldn't have a problem. Very very good protein source. Esp before bed as it is slow digesting.
12-16-2005, 08:03 AM #8Originally Posted by Canadiantiger
12-16-2005, 01:06 PM #9
yo bro, at first read id say if you are worried about the muscle loss you may want to up the protein intake. Ive been cutting for a good 12 weeks now...Im getting well over 300 grams of protein a day. Ive been cutting up very nicely....down from 197 to 185 without losing any strength at all...What are your stats? age? weight? Might be able to give u some other suggestions.
12-16-2005, 01:52 PM #10Originally Posted by TR'05
12-16-2005, 01:55 PM #11Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
12-16-2005, 03:00 PM #12Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
12-16-2005, 09:16 PM #13Originally Posted by Giantz11
12-17-2005, 12:53 AM #14
I count about 120g of solid protein in there. I don't see how you are not starving to death. You could add another 200g of protein and be fine. I ate around 300g of solid protein on my cutting diet and still lost 30 lbs.
12-17-2005, 07:49 AM #15Originally Posted by Zapp
nlarge shake= 56 grams of protein
1 can tuna fish= 32 grams of protein
50 grams of whey=50grams protein
8oz. chicken=40-50 grams of protein
1 1/2 cups of cottage cheese=36 grams of protein
1/4 cup of almonds=8 grams of protein
10 grams of glutamine=10 grams of protein
(i wont count the BCAAs or amino acid pills and im not even counting the protein that comes in oatmeal)
TOTAL COMES TO=280 grams of protein.....300 if you cant the 10 grams from oatmeal and 10 grams from glutamine.
im not starving because i needed a break from the constant stuffing my face and im actually enjoying this cutting diet.
12-17-2005, 11:35 AM #16
Well bro, Id say your diet is looking good. At first I was sketical of the protein intake, but if you feel 280 grams is sufficient thats cool with me- you are the only one who can tell. If it were me, at your height, weight, and activity level I would shoot for a macro breakdown as such:
~3000 calories, ~377 grams of protein, ~100 grams of fat, and ~120 carbs TOTAL. If you are worried about maintaining muscle, up the protein bro. Toss is a couple more egg whites, maybe make it two tins of tuna, you know, whatever you feel like. But, all in all it is looking pret g, broheim.
If you do choose to add the extra protein, it won't slow you down IMO. Good luck!!
12-17-2005, 12:15 PM #17Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
12-17-2005, 12:38 PM #18
good point zapp....you have over 100 grams of your protein coming from shakes. I would say keep the shakes to your PWO nutrition, and maybe one more before bed with a tbsp of flax. It's always better to get your protein from real solid foods- especially while cutting and maintaining muscle.
12-17-2005, 01:03 PM #19
your diet is fine....extra protein which is not needed means extra calories....Zapp....u look bigger than him..and ur advising him to take in more protein than u did??? doesnt make much sense
12-17-2005, 07:37 PM #20Originally Posted by Zapp
12-17-2005, 07:54 PM #21Originally Posted by IronFreakX
Last edited by Zapp; 12-17-2005 at 08:04 PM.
12-17-2005, 07:59 PM #22Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
12-17-2005, 08:08 PM #23Originally Posted by Zapp
12-17-2005, 08:15 PM #24Originally Posted by IronFreakX
12-17-2005, 08:38 PM #25Originally Posted by Zapp
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS CONTRIBUTED SOME ADVICE TO MY THREAD I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. KEEP IT COMING POR FAVOR.
12-17-2005, 08:42 PM #26
what kind of CLA? not all kinds are effective
12-17-2005, 08:44 PM #27
12-17-2005, 08:44 PM #28Originally Posted by IronFreakX
12-17-2005, 08:46 PM #29Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
12-17-2005, 08:48 PM #30
the 9,11 isomer which appears responsible for improving muscle growth and the 10,12 isomer which primarily prevents lipogenisis (storage of fat in adipose tissue). Most supplements sold in stores contain a 50/50 mix of both isomers.
12-17-2005, 08:49 PM #31
yeah this A L I N shit is getting real old
12-17-2005, 08:51 PM #32Originally Posted by IronFreakX
12-17-2005, 08:53 PM #33
its probably not written on the label neway
12-17-2005, 09:02 PM #34Originally Posted by IronFreakX
12-17-2005, 09:04 PM #35
all we can do now is hope
12-17-2005, 09:22 PM #36Originally Posted by IronFreakX
hahaha...lets all take a moment of silence and pray for my CLA.
12-17-2005, 10:23 PM #37Originally Posted by IronFreakX
12-18-2005, 06:30 PM #38Originally Posted by xtinaunasty
12-18-2005, 07:42 PM #39Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
12-18-2005, 07:49 PM #40
hey guys 3 1/2 weeks into it and went from 215-217 pounds to 208-210 pounds...gut is definitely not protruding anymore, veins are coming out in my arms and one big one is starting to show in my chest...and midsection fat is going down too...what are the opinions on the last meal of the day though......
1 1/2 cups of cottage cheese and 1/4 cup of almonds....it comes to 27 grams of fat, 18 grams of carbs, and 44 grams of protein...should i make this meal something else because of the carbs or can i take ala before this meal to prevent the insulin spike?.....
I MEAN WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THIS MEAL?
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