eating uncooked oats the same as cooked oats?

**xWilx** · 12-15-2005, 03:12 PM

Was Wondering If Eating Uncooked Oats Is The Same As Eating Cooked Oats.?..cooked Oats Expand And All So Is It Still The Same Amount Of Carbs In Stuff...i Know Some People Blend Oats With Their Shake...thankz

**bigsd67** · 12-15-2005, 03:17 PM

.5cup = 150 cals dry measure....

**Panzerfaust** · 12-15-2005, 03:28 PM

I use to pour whatever amount i would normally cook into my shaker if i was in a hurry. Now i always cook them w/ a dash of Splenda.

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-15-2005, 03:45 PM

cooked oatmeal has a lower GI. I think the difference is like 14 or so. if I remember right cooked has 76 and raw 89

**xWilx** · 12-15-2005, 03:48 PM

Soo Same Amount Of Carbs Tho?

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-15-2005, 03:55 PM

yeah

**xWilx** · 12-15-2005, 03:59 PM

K Cool Cool Thankz For The Help

**xtinaunasty** · 12-15-2005, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by johan

cooked oatmeal has a lower GI. I think the difference is like 14 or so. if I remember right cooked has 76 and raw 89

wow i didnt know that. so its only 11 points lower than say, dextrose...? so all this oats/whey vs dex/whey pwo is over 11 points? hmm....

**Superballer** · 12-15-2005, 08:05 PM

Dam, that's a good point, xtina.

Might as well just have a dex/whey shake? at least it would taste better.

**bigtraps** · 12-15-2005, 08:46 PM

Main Page---Food Profiles are off.

Cooked and uncooked have different macro's - includeing carb's

Just ask swole.

**Superballer** · 12-15-2005, 09:15 PM

I think swole is referring to is when you measure the oats, not that the macros change after cooking them.

If you measure the oats after they have been cooked it is a lot less carbs than before because the oats expand and take up more volume.

So if you start with 1/2 cups uncooked oats and then cook them, then it will now be 4 cups of volume (just making up the numbers, but that's the gist).....

The amount of oats didn't change, they just absorbed water.

**xtinaunasty** · 12-15-2005, 09:18 PM

1/2c dry usually equals 1c cooked, depending on how much water you put in

**steve0** · 12-15-2005, 09:42 PM

i use dry uncooked oats for my PWO i just drink it, its not bad

**chest6** · 12-15-2005, 09:57 PM

Cooked...as in slippin it in the microwave? Sorry for the Ignorance..I have never cooked my oats before.

**bigtraps** · 12-15-2005, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

Cooked...as in slippin it in the microwave? Sorry for the Ignorance..I have never cooked my oats before.

Yes. I nuke mine for 1 minute.

**chest6** · 12-15-2005, 10:06 PM

I'll try that with some splenda..maybe a lil brown sugar

**bigtraps** · 12-15-2005, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

I'll try that with some splenda..maybe a lil brown sugar

Oops...i forgot that. I do that, Sweet N low and a dash of cinamin

**Superballer** · 12-15-2005, 10:11 PM

I Live on oats.... it's the easiest, quickest carb source for me as a student.

But it seems like a such a high GI, maybe I should starting finding alternatives.

Chest- you really never have cooked your oats before? try, it, they're great.

**chest6** · 12-15-2005, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Superballer

I Live on oats.... it's the easiest, quickest carb source for me as a student.

But it seems like a such a high GI, maybe I should starting finding alternatives.

Chest- you really never have cooked your oats before? try, it, they're great.

nope, I never tried it. Like a college student as you said, I just put it in a bowl, fill it with water and eat. Oats is in my first meal and I'm usually pressed for time for my first class then, so I dont have time to run it down the hall to the microwave. Im at home now for the semester break, and I'll give it a try.

**xtinaunasty** · 12-16-2005, 03:52 PM

i used to cook mine. but now the thought of cooked slimey oats makes me gag. i just bought a coffee grinder and have been grinding them down and having them with my shake. i can hardly even tell they're in there...cept when i get down to the bottom and there is a big clump. oh well, i can get used to it.

speaking of oats and GI...do quick oats have a higher GI than regular oats?

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-16-2005, 06:02 PM

generaly the finer, thinner and more grinded a oat is the higher its GI is. So the coffe grinder method probably raises the gi quite a bit over regular oatmeal porridge.

I dont know exactly what quick oats are so Il leave that to someone else

**xtinaunasty** · 12-16-2005, 06:07 PM

seriously? just grinding them up changes the GI?? seesh! ill just stick with dex

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-16-2005, 06:14 PM

Yes. Acctualy that is true for any carb source. The more grinded and easily digested it is the higher the gi. Thats why mashed potatoes have higher gi then whole potatoes.

**xtinaunasty** · 12-16-2005, 06:20 PM

thanks johan...didnt mean to be rude. this whole knit picky stuff just gets annoying after a while, sick of changing stuff.

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-16-2005, 06:23 PM

lol I didnt even notice you beeing rude.

I dont think there is any real reason to worry though. Unless doing a super strict cutting diet.

**Superballer** · 12-16-2005, 06:25 PM

wow, thanks johan, I've been grinding all my oats in the coffee grinder as well.

I would have never guessed that just by altering the physical composition of a food, I'm in fact changing the GI.

**xtinaunasty** · 12-16-2005, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by johan

lol I didnt even notice you beeing rude.

I dont think there is any real reason to worry though. Unless doing a super strict cutting diet.

Well, I am on a cutting diet...but I'm not at the super strict level yet by any means. When I get there, though, this information will be helpful.

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-16-2005, 06:29 PM

throw in a mouthfull of any seed and the raised Gi is negated by the extra fiber

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-16-2005, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Superballer

wow, thanks johan, I've been grinding all my oats in the coffee grinder as well.

I would have never guessed that just by altering the physical composition of a food, I'm in fact changing the GI.

Yeah most dont think about it. But by mechanicly grinding the oats/grains you do some work that the stomach would otherwise have to do. So the stomach can disolve the carbs faster and it will hit the bloodstream faster.

**xtinaunasty** · 12-16-2005, 06:31 PM

yeah i read some info you posted on psyllum (sp?) and flax seeds helping w/digestion. But wouldnt the flax seeds add fat?

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-16-2005, 06:37 PM

nah flax seeds passes right through your body without getting digested. Atleast 90% of them. If you chew em you get some fat. But the fat straight from the seeds are better then the fat in flax oil so its not a problem either realy. You also get natural anti estrogens and other things from flax seeds(they get ruined in oil and in pre grinded seeds).

Psyllium is supreme though, it is better at lowering GI and it also cleans out the whole digestive track.

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-16-2005, 06:39 PM

you can also use other seeds. Sesame seeds for instance is high in minerals, especialy calcium and magnesium.

**xtinaunasty** · 12-16-2005, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by johan

nah flax seeds passes right through your body without getting digested. Atleast 90% of them. If you chew em you get some fat. But the fat straight from the seeds are better then the fat in flax oil so its not a problem either realy. You also get natural anti estrogens and other things from flax seeds(they get ruined in oil and in pre grinded seeds).

Psyllium is supreme though, it is better at lowering GI and it also cleans out the whole digestive track.

I have colon cleanse (haha, i know i know) which has psyllium husk powder. will that do?

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-16-2005, 06:50 PM

I guess it might work. I would rather go with the real seeds though. But it wouldnt hurt to use it.

**Gassy** · 12-17-2005, 12:41 AM

I'm getting a lower GI for oats on glycemicindex.com, but it gives several types. Also psyillium husks are a bulking agent and will prevent the absorbtion of and nutrients taken an hour before or after the husks.

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-17-2005, 07:42 AM

gassy they might use the GI scale where dextrose has 100 in gi. I use the scale where white bread has 100.

As far as I know psyllium doesnt prevent absorbtion it just delays it.

**Panzerfaust** · 12-17-2005, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by xtinaunasty

1/2c dry usually equals 1c cooked, depending on how much water you put in

Exactly right, this is what i eat every morning with ym pro shake. I measure my oats everytime.

**cherokee6** · 12-19-2005, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

I'll try that with some splenda..maybe a lil brown sugar

i used splenda for a bit, but i trashed it when i discovered that adding one sliced banana to cooked oats (after stirring) makes it taste like banana bread...mmm banana bread...so if you can afford the extra carbs its worth a try

.....cook em with the sliced banana

**mitch911** · 12-19-2005, 09:00 PM

definatly a good choice...when not cutting i like to switch up the oats every morning by adding a lil fruit to it either some banana slices..chopped apple with cinamin..some berries its all good ..luv my oats!! quickest easiest cheap carb

**speak** · 12-20-2005, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by johan

Yes. Acctualy that is true for any carb source. The more grinded and easily digested it is the higher the gi. Thats why mashed potatoes have higher gi then whole potatoes.

So wouldn't this mean that you could change the GI by chewing your food more? Sounds like swallowing everything whole would be the way to go.