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    R-ALA vs. ALA for cutting

    why is R-ALA more primative for cutting than ALA?

    should it be supplemented with any other aminos to help it work?

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    Use R-ALA and take it with carbs meals, however I'd skip it PWO. So all other carb meals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    Use R-ALA and take it with carbs meals, however I'd skip it PWO. So all other carb meals.
    with or before...if before, how long before?

    oh and to the guy up top, r-ala is probably 10 times more powerful than ALA.

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    R- ala is the best but that shit is exspensive so i just buy the ala unless im really trying to get ripped

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    Use R-ALA and take it with carbs meals, however I'd skip it PWO. So all other carb meals.

    why skip it PWO?

    i take it PWO
    and take a double or triple dose PWO if using inulin - along with chrom picolinate

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    I personally don't feel its needed PWO since nutrient transport is at max efficiency at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    I personally don't feel its needed PWO since nutrient transport is at max efficiency at that time.

    what about when injecting slin PWO - can it be beneficial then?

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    once again...should i take r-ala with or before meals? if before, how long before?

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    i try and take it before - about 15mins

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
    once again...should i take r-ala with or before meals? if before, how long before?

    Just take it with meals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    what about when injecting slin PWO - can it be beneficial then?
    I don't see the need to take an Insulin Mimicing product when you are taking insulin. What's your reasoning, maybe I'm not thinking this though.

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    so r-ala allows me to get away with eating high glycemic carbs throughout the day because of the way it manipulates insulin and brings nutrients to muscles and not adipose cells or whatever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04
    so r-ala allows me to get away with eating high glycemic carbs throughout the day because of the way it manipulates insulin and brings nutrients to muscles and not adipose cells or whatever?

    In a roundabout way...yes! But of course it is not a miracle worker..you still got to kep carbs in check naturally. Or basically it does not give you free reign to have an extra cup of rice, oats, etc.. IMO.

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    ^^^^^wow i cannot even undertsand my own post^^^^^

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    Don't mean to hijack, but where do most of you get your R-ALA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdMan2
    Don't mean to hijack, but where do most of you get your R-ALA?
    vitamin shoppe has it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    I don't see the need to take an Insulin Mimicing product when you are taking insulin. What's your reasoning, maybe I'm not thinking this though.

    it was advice i found over at the igf, slin and hgh forum

    they actually just advised that you take chromium and rala when using slin - they didnt specify if it was PWO or not

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    How much are taking with each meal?

    I just bought 200g of powdered ala.

    But don't know how much I'm supposed to be taking.

    Cheers

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    most tablets come with 100mg - i take one or 2 (if its over 100g of carbs) with each carb meal

    incidentally does anyone know what the R stands for
    R ? - alpha lipoic acid

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    Racemic

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    it was advice i found over at the igf, slin and hgh forum

    they actually just advised that you take chromium and rala when using slin - they didnt specify if it was PWO or not
    Well when you are taking slin thats a bit different.

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    only advantage I can think of when using r-ala with slin would be that you could get away with less slin. They probably mean at other times of the day to keep insulin sensitivity high.

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    Racemic is an equal portion of the R and S isomers. Otherwise known as "standard" or "regular" ALA.

    The R in R-ALA is to let you know that the compound contains only the R isomer, and is not combined with the S to form a "racemic" mixture.

    Here is good link to scientific ALA info
    http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/la/

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