up 10lbs in 2wks

**hulkzer** · 01-16-2006, 07:40 PM

Just started wk 3 and im already up 10lbs, with no aas. ive never gained so fast before. Has anyone else gained like this?

oh ya thanks to tai who talked me into bulking instead of cutting.

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**Teriyaki** · 01-16-2006, 07:53 PM

Impressive and very interesting

**Always Liftin'** · 01-16-2006, 08:25 PM

wow bro, im into week 1 and i dont know how much i have gained, because as an idiot i forgot to weigh, but i weighed 169.5lbs last wed, this wed i will weigh and see how much i have gained, but 10 lbs in 2 weeks sounds super impressive...

**D9S0M** · 01-16-2006, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by hulkzer

Just started wk 3 and im already up 10lbs, with no aas. ive never gained so fast before. Has anyone else gained like this?

oh ya thanks to tai who talked me into bulking instead of cutting.

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wats your diet like

**hulkzer** · 01-16-2006, 08:44 PM

i will post it as soon as i can.

**hulkzer** · 01-16-2006, 08:56 PM

meal 1
9 egg whites
1 whole egg
reduced fat turkey bacon like 2.5g of fat per serving
3 white corn tortillas
oatmeal w/ splenda and fat free jam

meal 2
lean protein 6oz
small amount veggies
flax

meal 3
lean protein 4oz
100% fat free beans

meal 4
lean protein 6oz
flax

meal 5
50gr whey+100gr dextrose

meal 6
lean protein 6-7oz
carb(always diff.) = 60-70

meal 7
muscle milk or 100% Casein
flax

bed time

total
cal3400-3600
pro350-365
fat100-110(including flax)
carb300-350

nothing in my diet it that different, but i am gaining like crazy.
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**chest6** · 01-16-2006, 10:13 PM

shit man..hopefuly I can get some progress 1/4 that good

**doctor41baller** · 01-16-2006, 10:15 PM

Damn good eating plan. I can't do that with work and all. Gotta subtitue protein shakes usually. But very impressive. Keep up the good work and don't give up when that plateau hits!!

**Kurz** · 01-17-2006, 05:43 AM

arent you sick of flax? Personally, I need way more carb meals and some fats other than flax....peanuts, almonds....pb sandwhichs.....let loose...

**hulkzer** · 01-17-2006, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by doctor41baller

Damn good eating plan. I can't do that with work and all. Gotta subtitue protein shakes usually. But very impressive. Keep up the good work and don't give up when that plateau hits!!

i cheat a little on fri and sat night, but i'll take rala. if i plateau i'll try upping cals or get on a short cycle. trying to hit 205-210

Originally Posted by Kurz

arent you sick of flax? Personally, I need way more carb meals and some fats other than flax....peanuts, almonds....pb sandwhichs.....let loose...

i use capsules i hate the taste on flax

**BuildaBeast** · 01-17-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by hulkzer

i cheat a little on fri and sat night, but i'll take rala. if i plateau i'll try upping cals or get on a short cycle. trying to hit 205-210

i use capsules i hate the taste on flax

Whose flax capsules are you ising? I hate the taste also

**hulkzer** · 01-17-2006, 03:32 PM

i don't remember the brand, but i got them from **-health from the refrigerated section.
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**Always Liftin'** · 01-17-2006, 09:25 PM

im up 3 lbs in 1.5 weeks, i know its not as impressive but i seem to be filling out nicely, it also seems to me that your just really genetically gifted haha.....very good genes it seems like...but oh wel, maybei can get up to 4 lbs in 2 weeks....

**hulkzer** · 01-17-2006, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Always Liftin'

im up 3 lbs in 1.5 weeks, i know its not as impressive but i seem to be filling out nicely, it also seems to me that your just really genetically gifted haha.....very good genes it seems like...but oh wel, maybei can get up to 4 lbs in 2 weeks....

not really gifted i usually don't gain like this, but i have been killing myself at the gym.

**Kurz** · 01-18-2006, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by hulkzer

not really gifted i usually don't gain like this, but i have been killing myself at the gym.

in the kitchen too?

**BIGPHIL** · 01-18-2006, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by hulkzer

meal 1
9 egg whites
1 whole egg
reduced fat turkey bacon like 2.5g of fat per serving
3 white corn tortillas
oatmeal w/ splenda and fat free jam

meal 2
lean protein 6oz
small amount veggies
flax

meal 3
lean protein 4oz
100% fat free beans

meal 4
lean protein 6oz
flax

meal 5
50gr whey+100gr dextrose

meal 6
lean protein 6-7oz
carb(always diff.) = 60-70

meal 7
muscle milk or 100% Casein
flax

bed time

total
cal3400-3600
pro350-365
fat100-110(including flax)
carb300-350

nothing in my diet it that different, but i am gaining like crazy.
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Very Impressive i thought most of your weight gain would have been water, but your not taking in that many carbs so your gaining well my friend...whats ur height e.t.c are youbig boned or what what kind of body type do you have

**hulkzer** · 01-19-2006, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by BIGPHIL

Very Impressive i thought most of your weight gain would have been water, but your not taking in that many carbs so your gaining well my friend...whats ur height e.t.c are youbig boned or what what kind of body type do you have

im sure some is gunna be a little fat, but i've been good. starting to plateau now haven't gained in 4days. im 5 11,26yrs, medium build, started at 186 now im at 196 morning weight. if you haven't noticed by my diet im mexican b

**Kurz** · 01-19-2006, 07:42 PM

meal 4
lean protein 6oz
flax

dont like....you need carbs here!!!

**hulkzer** · 01-19-2006, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Kurz

meal 4
lean protein 6oz
flax

dont like....you need carbs here!!!

i forgot to put in that i slam some noexplode(double dose) 1/2hr before workouts. alot of people hate the stuff, but i like it. it give's me some carbs b4 my workout. do you think even more carbs in meal 4 and drop the flax?

**chest6** · 01-19-2006, 10:58 PM

Yes. I would go a cup of oats or so here

**BIGPHIL** · 01-20-2006, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by hulkzer

im sure some is gunna be a little fat, but i've been good. starting to plateau now haven't gained in 4days. im 5 11,26yrs, medium build, started at 186 now im at 196 morning weight. if you haven't noticed by my diet im mexican b

**hulkzer** · 01-31-2006, 07:51 PM

update

added in some more carbs. gained 4 more lbs, in the last 2wks.
so far i gained 14lbs in 4wks. going to continue bulking for 2 more
wks. then go straight into a cutter. still can't belive im gaining like
this w/ no aas.

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**Kurz** · 02-01-2006, 05:05 AM

What Diet Did You Go With? Training?

**hulkzer** · 02-01-2006, 12:43 PM

i used the diet mentioned above. haven't posted my cutting diet yet.

**GuerillaUnit** · 02-01-2006, 01:57 PM

hulkzer, when do you train.... between which meal.... Yur post training meal is crucial!!!!!

**hulkzer** · 02-01-2006, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by GuerillaUnit

hulkzer, when do you train.... between which meal.... Yur post training meal is crucial!!!!!

i train right before my pwo shake 50g whey/100g dex. which would be between meal 4 and 5 on the diet i posted above.

**Kurz** · 02-01-2006, 02:19 PM

PREWORKOUT IS MORE IMPORTANT....and yours needs work.........you need a carb/pro source, no fats here bro!!!

**hulkzer** · 02-01-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Kurz

PREWORKOUT IS MORE IMPORTANT....and yours needs work.........you need a carb/pro source, no fats here bro!!!

ya had allready mentioned i added more carbs, but not where. they were added to prework out meal 4.
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**URMaster** · 02-03-2006, 12:55 PM

I just hit the gym for the first time in years and am reporting serious gains as well. Ive been at it for the last month and half and am up approx 18.5lbs. Most of the gains LBM...my muscles literally look twice as big. Some fat around the midsection but Im an ectomorph so im not to worried. My weight gain has been steady. Gained 8.5 in the last two weeks alone. My diet is not as strict as yours, im consuming more calories in a day...My only concern is im gaining to much to fast and will have to slow it down because of fat gains, but so far so good.

Interesting to note probably because of the long lay off from the gym, my initial testosterone levels rose dramatically, hard on all day basically..Sex drive through the roof. Since, has leveled off a bit. No AAS.

**sooners04** · 02-04-2006, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by Kurz

PREWORKOUT IS MORE IMPORTANT....and yours needs work.........you need a carb/pro source, no fats here bro!!!

Why?? The stickies show pro/fat before each workout?

**Kurz** · 02-04-2006, 05:07 AM

trust me........

**chest6** · 02-04-2006, 09:03 PM

haha i gained 12lbs on day7 of bulking

**novastepp** · 02-04-2006, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Kurz

trust me........

i always use pro/fat meal before my workouts and i feel great. pro/carb seems to bloat me...
why do you say this is "more important" than PWO??

**taiboxa** · 02-05-2006, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kurz

PREWORKOUT IS MORE IMPORTANT....and yours needs work.........you need a carb/pro source, no fats here bro!!!

he only needs 1 p/c meal w/in 8hrs of training

**taiboxa** · 02-05-2006, 08:34 AM

and preworkout vs post work out is HIGHLY debatable .. and infact a redundent argument anyways it takes for ever for glycogen to be replenished as well as depleted.. but pwo glycogen should be realitively low and if u busted ass like u should of cortisol will be rising thus you use high GI Carbs to induce insulin which is extremely anabolic /anticatabolic to prevent any catabolism of muscle mass pwo.

i have gaind NICELY on a LOW CARB DIET w/ only 3 carb meals a day 1st pc meal 4hrs before training pwo shake and ppwo meal.. others were all pro/fat which helped me stay really lean by making my body use its own fat for fuel in a pro/fat induce lipolytic state.

also the expediant weight gain is from water/glycogen/fat and the slow ass digesting fat accumatling in your intestines

which is adding some nice weight. but anyways props for your solid gains and i like your diet.
dont over complicate things either just makes everything way more difficult than it should be. and up the fiber if possible

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 02-05-2006, 08:53 AM

Well instead of gear this is giving me hope. But I already eat 4900 cals a day, i posted diet, Iunno i could eat more I am always hungry.

**taiboxa** · 02-05-2006, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME

Well instead of gear this is giving me hope. But I already eat 4900 cals a day, i posted diet, Iunno i could eat more I am always hungry.

eat more fatty foods they have a higher saitey feeling as they are slower digested and a yeild a much higher caloric value.. eat more peanuts/almonds/redmeats eggyolks

**Kurz** · 02-05-2006, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

eat more fatty foods they have a higher saitey feeling as they are slower digested and a yeild a much higher caloric value.. eat more peanuts/almonds/redmeats eggyolks

bro..you are not real lean....so, I'm not sure what you are referring to.........

**taiboxa** · 02-05-2006, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Kurz

bro..you are not real lean....so, I'm not sure what you are referring to.........

ok where u going w/ this ...
i was referring to him and his cal intake NEW_IN_THE_GAME as far as me being lean i suppose NOT great observation there

but wat relevance dose my being lean have to this thread?
i was referring to his statement that... he could easily eat more and is not FULL on the alloted cals he is takin in..
thus this indicatess to me that his fat intake is too low.. fats are much denser and much more difficult to digest, taking longer time making him feel FULL.
dood YOU are drivin me nuts

**spound** · 02-05-2006, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Kurz

bro..you are not real lean....so, I'm not sure what you are referring to.........

Dude, are you being serious? What does it matter in this thread if tai is lean or not? Obviously you are too worried about leanness if you count the cals in your gum! And you havent gained any weight in two weeks of bulking AFTER you have been marathon running for however long in your recent past. It seems like you are following certain people's posts and bashing them, and I am not bashing you here, but that can get old to some. Chill out, give your opinion, and don't worry too much about what everyone else is doing. Just some words of advice. Everyone responds diffferntly to various types of training and diet techniques, jsut keep that in mind.