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    Meal timing before bed.........

    How many bros eat within 10 minutes of sleeping? Either pro/fats or pro/carbs? My 2nd to last meal is my dext/whey shake and can't get in another meal until I'm literally in bed (1.5hrs later)........I always have had another shake of pro/fats like muscle milk or casein and peanuts. What do you do? Anyone wake up in the middle of the night and eat? Last facet of this game that really has me baffeled.....bedtime and calorie storage has me confused. Thanks.

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    I just take 5 scoops of whey and 1.5Tbsp Flax about 10 minutes before bed.

    The timing varies for me dramatically because I don't always go right to sleep after the shake.

    Every night, regardless of when I ate last, or what time it is, I just simply have this shake before I go to bed.

    Sometimes I wake up hungry at 2am or so - if I do I'll eat Fat Free Cottage Cheese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGMuXle
    I just take 5 scoops of whey and 1.5Tbsp Flax about 10 minutes before bed.

    The timing varies for me dramatically because I don't always go right to sleep after the shake.

    Every night, regardless of when I ate last, or what time it is, I just simply have this shake before I go to bed.

    Sometimes I wake up hungry at 2am or so - if I do I'll eat Fat Free Cottage Cheese.

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    wow 100g of protein?! i hope u got 300lbs of lbm or are using slin kuz that fast acting protein is going to be stored as fat fairly rapidly

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    I have casein protein with flaxseed b4 bed and my second off last meal is 3 egg whites 1 egg yoke. Keeps me sorted till 5:15 am for breakfast.

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    Wouldn't a pro/carb meal be smart? keeping your blood suger up would keep you anabolic after the workout. but that's all IMO. but i would definately eat whole foods before bed, no shakes, it'll be stored too quickly as tai said.

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    Muscle Milk!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    Wouldn't a pro/carb meal be smart? keeping your blood suger up would keep you anabolic after the workout. but that's all IMO. but i would definately eat whole foods before bed, no shakes, it'll be stored too quickly as tai said.
    no when u sleep u go into more of a liplytic state (fat burning) since the activity is not "INTENSE" thus you want to take a meal that will encourage this effect sparing glycogen and protein for future events.

    hense forth a profat meal w/ 40% cals from fat 60%cals from protein

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    thanks tai, more knowledge the better...

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    what kind of meal would be 40-60 fat-protein like that? any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    what kind of meal would be 40-60 fat-protein like that? any ideas?
    something like 2tbl flax 3scoops whey or like.

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    On workout days I eat tuna small amount of brown rice and metamucil...on non workout days I just eat the tuna and metamucil...feel free to point out flaws...Id rather be wrong and know it...all this is minutes before bed BTW...

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    i thought whey would digest waaaay too fast so it wasn't a good idea before bed, and that the flax being in liquid form wouldn't do much with slowing digestion?...

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    See what I mean............now everyone says pro/fat.

    Last poll.............just put yourself in my shoes. You train in the evening. you have your pro/carb shake (im using oats, whey and skim), by the time all is said and done, its time to crash. Time elaspesed has been roughly 1.5 -2 hrs. Do you have nothing? Pro/fat? or pro carbs? I'm leaning towards a pro/fats shake

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    i would say pro/fat but solid foods...
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    almonds, cottage cheese.......

    whats the difference if I blend them or eat em whole? Nada?

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    i work out around 9:30 in the evening, so my last meal of the night is around 12-12:30. i usually follow my postworkout meal with chicken breast and rice. last night was my bros b-day and he let me have his newyork strip and mashed potatos to take home.........best ppwo meal i have had in a while. I am bulking!

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    steak/almonds/veggie

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    Quote Originally Posted by copenhagen
    i work out around 9:30 in the evening, so my last meal of the night is around 12-12:30. i usually follow my postworkout meal with chicken breast and rice. last night was my bros b-day and he let me have his newyork strip and mashed potatos to take home.........best ppwo meal i have had in a while. I am bulking!
    huh??

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    5 scoops = 50 grams

    I don't believe that 50g will be stored as fat.

    My workouts are at night as well - around 6pm most days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGMuXle
    5 scoops = 50 grams

    I don't believe that 50g will be stored as fat.

    My workouts are at night as well - around 6pm most days.

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    well generally speaking all common scoops are 23-25grams ofp rotein so i assumed you were using a tradional scoop

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGMuXle
    5 scoops = 50 grams

    I don't believe that 50g will be stored as fat.

    My workouts are at night as well - around 6pm most days.

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    Even if it's not stored as fat. The amino's will be so rapidly absorbed that they won't have even the slightest of chances to be used. They will be quickly converted to glucose or excreted as nitrogen. The only time a Whey shake should ever be used is with a solid meal or PWO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantz11
    Even if it's not stored as fat. The amino's will be so rapidly absorbed that they won't have even the slightest of chances to be used. They will be quickly converted to glucose or excreted as nitrogen. The only time a Whey shake should ever be used is with a solid meal or PWO.
    yep whey w/ all my meals LOL helps me maintain 75g Whey w/ meal and i dont have to waist 30+min trying to shovel it all down

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    yep whey w/ all my meals LOL helps me maintain 75g Whey w/ meal and i dont have to waist 30+min trying to shovel it all down
    good insulin spike

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    I eat my pro/fat meal about 30 minutes before bed.

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    i eat it IN BED! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    well generally speaking all common scoops are 23-25grams ofp rotein so i assumed you were using a tradional scoop

    How much protein can the average person handle without it being stored as fat? I haven't heard of protein being stored as fat ever before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGMuXle
    How much protein can the average person handle without it being stored as fat? I haven't heard of protein being stored as fat ever before.
    Its not that really, its the fact that you are using Whey which is so quickly digesting, that is almost rendered useless after you drink it.

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    He said muscle milk that's the same thing i got Should you use that about 30 mins before bed? I wake up around 9:00 am and go to Am cardio for 45 mins keeping my HR at 150

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    IMO Muscle Milk should never be used, has way too many fats and carbs. I do realize that some of the fats are MCT's but I'd rather not use it at all.

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    ohhh mann it's the best tasteing protein of alll time the rest i have to add peanut butter or ice cream lol

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    use it...I was 100% against it too, but I had to try....now on my thrid tub. Mass gains have been nice, weight is slowly climbing and bf actually dropped it's MCTs)....only thing I've changed in my diet was that addition, I'm sold!

    btw - carbs are quite low, as is the sugar!

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