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    Eating Before You go To Bed

    I'm 6'2, 218 lbs. I recently was 236 lbs...not all muscle obviously. I want to be around 200 lbs now, barley any fat.

    I tend to eat right, workout almost everyday, and do a fair amount of cardio as well.I've limited the drinking when I go to clubs, or at least have tried to.

    But I eat somtimes before I go to bed and am wondering what you've heard on this. Does it slow your metabolism down? On the days that I don't eat before I sleep, i wake up feeling hungry, and "leaner" if that makes sense.

    What is your advice on this? Thanks.

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    nova, you got a pm bro

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    cottage cheese and almonds, muscle milk or casein shake with flax, something ALWAYS minutes before bed!

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    Do you guys mean it is not good idea to eat a whole meal (e.g. Brown rice and Chicken breast) before bed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex2
    Do you guys mean it is not good idea to eat a whole meal (e.g. Brown rice and Chicken breast) before bed?
    I do that...tuna with a small amount of brown rice...with supplemented fiber...

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    M-F, I train, have my shake around 630-700pm, then have a nice hot soothing bowl of oats and casein about 5 mins before bed............


    well, actually, I never have done that before, but SC tells me I should!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex2
    Do you guys mean it is not good idea to eat a whole meal (e.g. Brown rice and Chicken breast) before bed?

    Nahh, but im cutting an usually all i do is the whey water and flax...

    Bulking I usually meal it up...

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    How close to sleep does everyone eat?

    Screw this 1 hour+ garbabge.....thats not before bed!

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    I eat and walk to my bed...doesnt always workout though...Ive had trouble getting to sleep ever since I was an innocent child...

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    For cutting I heard you're not to eat any thing two hours before bed. It does make your body burn what ever stores you have built up through the night. Also makes that morning empty stomach cardio all the more effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 63190
    For cutting I heard you're not to eat any thing two hours before bed. It does make your body burn what ever stores you have built up through the night. Also makes that morning empty stomach cardio all the more effective.
    If by "effective" you mean catabolic...

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    i think its actually better to eat right before bed whether you're cutting or bulking. if you're anything like me...i love sleep, and gget 8-11 hours of it every night. so, going that long w/o eating is probably not the best for preserving muscle.

    whole foods are fine too. i go for egg whites and natty pb...yum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtinaunasty
    i think its actually better to eat right before bed whether you're cutting or bulking. if you're anything like me...i love sleep, and gget 8-11 hours of it every night. so, going that long w/o eating is probably not the best for preserving muscle.

    whole foods are fine too. i go for egg whites and natty pb...yum!
    I'm the same way. Usually I just slam a muscle milk before I'm ready to go to bed, but always pro/fat.

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    all depends when you train...not cutting or bulking......a meal before bed imho is crutial.....u ever woke up at 2am starving?? Its SUCKS!

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    Half hour before bed is what i do... water,whey,flax...

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    Half hour before bed is what i do... water,whey,flax...

    Which is a terrible call btw. Flax will not do a thing to slow down the digestion of a whey shake before bed, seeing as the flax is already in a lquified state. You should always eat something that digests slowly at night and make sure its a solid meal.

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    That's why I love you Giantz,
    So go with Tuna, and Natty Peanut Butter???...

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    That's why I love you Giantz,
    So go with Tuna, and Natty Peanut Butter???...
    If that sounds tasty to you!

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    Maybe not a mix, but i can do it...i hope

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    And by the way... what do you do? or recommend?

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    That honestly sounds fine. I usually will cook up some meat and have some green veggies and and some flax before bed. Or some cottage cheese.

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    Thanks man...
    hey my thread isn't getting hit yet, so i'll just ask you..
    what do you think is better after morning cardio?
    pro/carb
    pro/fat
    ?????

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    too many people advocate whey before bed

    WHY???

    its a very fast digesting protein
    how is that a good idea before bed??

    i despair i really do

    if your gonna use a shake then at least use casein
    the best will always be cottage cheese and almonds IMO

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    well after Reading What I Said, i am switching tonight to whole food meals before bed.
    Thanks, BYE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    well after Reading What I Said, i am switching tonight to whole food meals before bed.
    Thanks, BYE...


    where u goin?

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    Muscle milk................


    or

    a thick casein shake, skim, cottage cheese and peanuts/almonds.........

    although now everyone says I need to change to pro/carbs.....hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force

    where u goin?
    Classes!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurz
    Muscle milk................


    or

    a thick casein shake, skim, cottage cheese and peanuts/almonds.........

    although now everyone says I need to change to pro/carbs.....hmm
    pro/fat is fine.

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    time out.....remember the scenerio.........Finish traing at 600pm, pw shake of dext and whey at 630.....back to the office.........then I'm home around 815 with bed about 9. Do I have a carb/pro meal or has enough time gone by where I can have a pro/fat shake....keep in mind, this is about 5 mins before bed.

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    grilled chicken drumsticks(skinless) + fruit/veges

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurz
    time out.....remember the scenerio.........Finish traing at 600pm, pw shake of dext and whey at 630.....back to the office.........then I'm home around 815 with bed about 9. Do I have a carb/pro meal or has enough time gone by where I can have a pro/fat shake....keep in mind, this is about 5 mins before bed.
    pro /carb

    after your workout out are optimum for muscle glycogen replenishment

    the fact that your going to bed doesnt matter - u still need the carbs
    i always make sure i have at least 2 pro/carb meals after my workout
    preferably more - although like u, bed time gets in the way of that

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    One facet of the game that confuses me and makes me the most scared...even when bulking....never understood how dudes could wake up at midnight and slam food....shakes, etc.

    My brother competes, and he used to have a myoplex carb sense bar around midnight everynight. I always thought he could get away with it because of the gear he was on, but I had losing the abs........even now they are fading and my diet isnt really that much in excess.

    So, if you were me. Youd have your dext shake around 630-700 and then a meal of carbs and protein right before bed?? I have had a fat/pro shake actually in bed for the last year or so. Guess I should make it an oat/whey shake? It's ok to have two shakes back to back as my final 2 meals, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurz
    One facet of the game that confuses me and makes me the most scared...even when bulking....never understood how dudes could wake up at midnight and slam food....shakes, etc.

    My brother competes, and he used to have a myoplex carb sense bar around midnight everynight. I always thought he could get away with it because of the gear he was on, but I had losing the abs........even now they are fading and my diet isnt really that much in excess.

    So, if you were me. Youd have your dext shake around 630-700 and then a meal of carbs and protein right before bed?? I have had a fat/pro shake actually in bed for the last year or so. Guess I should make it an oat/whey shake? It's ok to have two shakes back to back as my final 2 meals, right?

    well if you are concerned about your abs - i definitely wouldnt be drinking muscle milk before bed like you mentioned in a previous thread

    IMO your PPWO meal should be of the solid variety

    remember your going to be asleep for 8+ hours - and that whey will be digested in an hour

    i workout similar time to you and will have DEX/Whey (but only if i'm running slin - otherwise its oats/bio yog/whey)

    then my next meal will be chicken and rice ( i have really gone off cot cheese recently)
    then bed shortly after

    the only thing i 'eat' in the middle of the night is a pro/fat shake
    and thats not all the time - just when i get over 200lbs and need extra cals

    if (like me) your worried about losing your abs when bulking try oats/whey PWO
    instead of the dex - most people report the same glygogen replenishment and recovery with less chance of gaining extra fat
    plus its healthier

    hope this helps

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    oats/whey immidiately after is it.......Ill give it a shot....maybe a banana too?

    Then I'll just have some peanuts and cottage cheese before bed....it's cool that it's literally IN BED....I mean sometimes I'm so drained I eat laying down, read for a few minutes and then crash.........

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    yeah banana good be useful with those oats

    cottage cheese and Peanuts???

    where are the carbs?

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    I thought the oats would suffice PW.......no? I think I can only manage 2 shakes....should one be pro/fats and one pro/carbs?

    Show me your meal plan, if you would bro.....lean bulking, abs are still fading, depressing.......maybe it's the 250mg of test?

    why dont YOU toss in a banana or too???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurz
    I thought the oats would suffice PW.......no? I think I can only manage 2 shakes....should one be pro/fats and one pro/carbs?

    Show me your meal plan, if you would bro.....lean bulking, abs are still fading, depressing.......maybe it's the 250mg of test?

    why dont YOU toss in a banana or too???

    PWO - whey/ Dex or whey/ yoghurt/ oats/honey banana

    PPWO - chicken and rice

    bed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurz
    oats/whey immidiately after is it.......Ill give it a shot....maybe a banana too?

    Then I'll just have some peanuts and cottage cheese before bed....it's cool that it's literally IN BED....I mean sometimes I'm so drained I eat laying down, read for a few minutes and then crash.........
    hey kurz i think you would be good with that. since you are having whole food carbs in your PWO, there isn't as much of a need for the carbs PPWO. But if I were you, I would make sure and also have a pro/carb meal pre-workout.

    Don't worry bout losing your abs so much though...it will be worth it when you cut back down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtinaunasty
    hey kurz i think you would be good with that. since you are having whole food carbs in your PWO, there isn't as much of a need for the carbs PPWO. But if I were you, I would make sure and also have a pro/carb meal pre-workout.

    Don't worry bout losing your abs so much though...it will be worth it when you cut back down!

    id say it depends on your goals

    if he's bulking id def recommend carbs in PPWO as glycogen replenishment is optimum for 6 hours after anaerobic exercise


    according to a study giantz/johan (cant remember which )
    20 -40g carbs every 40 mins -1 hour after workout (for up to 6hrs) is a good example of optimum glycogen replenishment

    correct me giantz or johan if i have got any of these details incorrect in anyway...... (i'm only going from memory here)

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