Everyone, Read UP......

***Giantz11*** · 01-30-2006, 03:40 PM

Listen up everyone. I've been reading a plethora of threads lately that contain false/horrific advise, given by people who have no clue as to what they are saying. So I say this; If you are going to give diet advice out in this forum.

- The advice given needs to be factual and if presented as factual, needs to be referenced if asked.
- If the advice is an opinion, the opinion needs to be justified if called for. I see so many people that will say something like, "Don't eat carbs after 7pm, your body doesn't utilize them at this time". If you say something like that you better be able to explain why your body can't use carbs.

I'm certain by now many people know some of my personal views on things such as PWO nutrition etc..., I'm not going to say anything to anyone that recommends Dextrose for PWO or anything like that. But if anyone gives us some asinine facts like "using Dex makes you 1000% more anabolic PWO", get ready to be called out.

Point is, we are all here to help each other out, share personal experiences and opinions on all diet related things. I encourage any discussions of theories etc... However just a warning to anyone that is posting blatantly bad advice, I'm gonna call you out and make you explain your position. Yes this is a steroid board, but we have some of the Net's best minds in here, Swole, Johan and plenty of others that contribute in here. So I'd like to see us ditch the rift raft and keep one of the nets best Diet forums getting even better. Thanks for your help.

~Giantz

***Giantz11*** · 01-30-2006, 03:50 PM

Bump.....

**swizole** · 01-30-2006, 04:08 PM

hell yeah, I agree. Sometimes i wonder if some of the shit i read on here is true or just some fat guy's opinion on what works. I dont want opinions, I want facts and facts from guys with extensive knowledge like swole, and u. Im not claiming to know much about dieting at all, but some of the stuff I read on here is garbage.

**1buffsob** · 01-30-2006, 04:12 PM

Hell yeah Giantz11. If you post something you had better be able to reference it. Dieting can be the most complicated part of bodybuilding just because of all the misinformation that's out there.

I use oats and whey for PWO when cutting. Don't know how many times I had to defend myself for not using dextrose/malto PWO.

***Giantz11*** · 01-30-2006, 04:14 PM

Also dieting is about 90% in one's goals BB realted. You know how many people in the AAS Forum are taking 1/2 gram of test a week but don't know what protein is? It's scary.

**1buffsob** · 01-30-2006, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

Also dieting is about 90% in one's goals BB realted. You know how many people in the AAS Forum are taking 1/2 gram of test a week but don't know what protein is? It's scary.

Damn scary. Information on proper dieting/ lifting techniques/ and aas are vital for BB. How many people do you see in the gym that can bench 350lbs but look like sh!t because they don't know how to diet? Or how many people do you see running miles on top of miles at the gym but still look out of shape? Or , like you said the "scary" scenario, where someone will take aas and wonder why there not getting any bigger or look any better? Probably because they're lifting half assed 2 or 3 times a week taking in 2000 calories a day, mostly from whey shakes too.

**sooners04** · 01-30-2006, 06:20 PM

Good point Giantz but I also think that some of the people give advice that worked for them, granted some of the advice is so far out there that its obvious its bogus. Sometimes I do think that people give there advice as to something that might have worked for them but isn't necessarily something that you or Swole would advise. Just my opinion.

**AnabolicAndre** · 01-30-2006, 07:01 PM

YEA! rip their heads off!

I mean bump... everyone should read this.

**taiboxa** · 01-30-2006, 07:20 PM

omg .. did you just say PLETHORA?! LOL

why not immense number or BUNCHA ?

**taiboxa** · 01-30-2006, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

Listen up everyone. I've been reading an immense number of threads lately that... ~Giantz

Originally Posted by Giantz11

Listen up everyone. I've been reading a buncha of threads lately that... ~Giantz

SEE much kewter!~

**SwoleCat** · 01-30-2006, 07:27 PM

Plethora is my word, and so is horrid!!

~SC~

**TADOLFI** · 01-30-2006, 07:30 PM

Here, here - more house cleaning!

***Giantz11*** · 01-30-2006, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

Plethora is my word, and so is horrid!!

~SC~

Shit for real, I might have to make a few edits then.

***Giantz11*** · 01-30-2006, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by sooners04

Good point Giantz but I also think that some of the people give advice that worked for them, granted some of the advice is so far out there that its obvious its bogus. Sometimes I do think that people give there advice as to something that might have worked for them but isn't necessarily something that you or Swole would advise. Just my opinion.

Not trying to ask people to hold back what has worked. Just if its way the hell out there, be able to explain.

***Narkissos*** · 01-30-2006, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

Not trying to ask people to hold back what has worked. Just if its way the hell out there, be able to explain.

Bump!

***Giantz11*** · 01-31-2006, 10:28 AM

Bump...

**Kärnfysikern** · 01-31-2006, 10:33 AM

**taiboxa** · 01-31-2006, 12:20 PM

i see you still havnt given SC his word back

Plethora theif!

**sooners04** · 02-01-2006, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

Not trying to ask people to hold back what has worked. Just if its way the hell out there, be able to explain.

Sounds reasonable enough!!

**SwoleCat** · 02-01-2006, 09:49 AM

That bulking diet thread that got locked is a STERLING/PLATINUM example of what this thread was created to address!

~SC~

***Giantz11*** · 02-01-2006, 09:51 AM

I was gonna say the same damn thing

**MatrixGuy** · 02-01-2006, 12:58 PM

Bump.

**SwoleCat** · 02-01-2006, 12:58 PM

Cool, because it needed to be said!

~SC~

**rissinite** · 02-01-2006, 01:04 PM

**Dave321** · 02-01-2006, 01:13 PM

George Bush hates black people.

**Dave321** · 02-01-2006, 01:13 PM

George Bush hates black people.

**SHRED** · 02-01-2006, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

Listen up everyone. I've been reading a plethora of threads lately that contain false/horrific advise, given by people who have no clue as to what they are saying. So I say this; If you are going to give diet advice out in this forum.

- The advice given needs to be factual and if presented as factual, needs to be referenced if asked.
- If the advice is an opinion, the opinion needs to be justified if called for. I see so many people that will say something like, "Don't eat carbs after 7pm, your body doesn't utilize them at this time". If you say something like that you better be able to explain why your body can't use carbs.

I'm certain by now many people know some of my personal views on things such as PWO nutrition etc..., I'm not going to say anything to anyone that recommends Dextrose for PWO or anything like that. But if anyone gives us some asinine facts like "using Dex makes you 1000% more anabolic PWO", get ready to be called out.

Point is, we are all here to help each other out, share personal experiences and opinions on all diet related things. I encourage any discussions of theories etc... However just a warning to anyone that is posting blatantly bad advice, I'm gonna call you out and make you explain your position. Yes this is a steroid board, but we have some of the Net's best minds in here, Swole, Johan and plenty of others that contribute in here. So I'd like to see us ditch the rift raft and keep one of the nets best Diet forums getting even better. Thanks for your help.

~Giantz

Wait so your saying its not true about Dextrose???????

LOL - What's up Giantz? It's been a while.

**LAGMuXle** · 02-01-2006, 06:30 PM

I noticed the first guy to respond so innocently to your thread Giantz, was the guy that posted the worst bulking thread/advice I've ever seen.

**swizole** · 02-02-2006, 08:03 AM

I didnt post that shitty ass bulking diet, I was the one making fun of the idiot who did!

**SwoleCat** · 02-02-2006, 08:06 AM

Right, it was not Swiz it was some other twatjockey.

~SC~

**LAGMuXle** · 02-02-2006, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by swizole

I didnt post that shitty ass bulking diet, I was the one making fun of the idiot who did!

Sorry Swiz, got confused. I was irritated.

My bad.

MuX

**MarkyMark** · 02-02-2006, 08:12 AM

I try and not crush others opinions .. but I am glad to see people in charge seeing a need for change ...

BUMP

**spittin' 'n cussin'** · 02-02-2006, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Giantz11

......abolic PWO", get ready to be called out.

Point is, we are all here to help each other out, share personal experiences and opinions on all diet related things. I encourage any discussions of theories etc... However just a warning to anyone that is posting blatantly bad advice, I'm gonna call you out and make you explain your position. Yes this is a steroid board, but we have some of the Net's best minds in here, Swole, Johan and plenty of others that contribute in here. So I'd like to see us ditch the rift raft and keep one of the nets best Diet forums getting even better. Thanks for your help.

~Giantz

Sorry man, need to call you out...it is "riff raff" not rift raft:

Google:
Definitions of Riff Raff on the Web:

* As an epithet, Riff Raff, belongs to a category of insults focusing on behavioral characteristics (such as mannerisms, lifestyle) rather than overt racial characteristics (as with nigger, yid).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riff_Raff