No more low carbs, switching to high carbs

[J-Dogg]

I'm under 10% body fat, and ready to start getting big and strong!

I'm going to 200 carbs first, then working my way up to 500 carbs a day.

Opions on this? is it too many carbs? will i be able to maintain my muscle hardness?

If i go with less how much will it hinder my growth? I'm not scared of cardo i run 3-4 times a week.

6'1"
182lbs
10% bf
21 years

wanna get to 200 lean lbs.

[PaPaPumP]

6'1 182....Nice and lean....time to get SWOLE!

You're at the perfect BF to start a bulk cycle. Are you staying natural, and if so what supps do you take (if any)?

Eat for what size you wanna be...you should be cake at getting to 4500 cals or so. I was at 5'10 180 when i started my first cyc... im up at 4500 cals and im gaining like mad..You should too! I'm eating 500 carbs and 420G protein per day with approx. 70-80 fats.

[Tampa-Pit]

Damn Bro...That's alot of cals with a nice breakdown of carb/pro/fats....Are you eating 6 meals a day? Where is the bulk of your carbs and proteins coming from?

[PaPaPumP]

Do you mean me?

[Tampa-Pit]

Guess I did leave that up in the air...Yes PaPaPump...."YOU"

[PaPaPumP]

If you haven't noticed...I'm a little slow...

Anyway


I eat 100g of carbs for my first 4 meals, then my workout shake containing appox 100g carbs.

I eat 7 times a day, the last 2 meals containing just protein, fat, and fiber.

50-60G of protein every 2-2.5 hours.

20-30G of protein shake when i get up to piss at night. Gotta stay anabolic 24 hours a day....there's no break from this lifestyle...always gotta be ready.

Gained 21lbs in the first 4 weeks off my cyc...so let's just say, something's working....

[PaPaPumP]

Oh, and i can still see my abs...

[Tampa-Pit]

DAMN!!! That's awesome bro (PaPa) ...I'll be starting my first cycle soon...Hope I'll be able to gain 21lbs. in those 10 weeks...

[PaPaPumP]

Just eat big, and you're cake bro....


YOU TOO J-DOGG!! (I didn't forget about ya )

[J-Dogg]

I'm thinking about starting a cycle soon.

Still unsure exactly what though.

I though about a fina/winny/clen cycle with fina 6 weeks, winny 8, and clen the last 2.

But Slin is looking very appealing too and way easier to get w/o as much legal risk. From what I understand you can get gains, big gains from it also. Gains that you would see with HGH.

[J-Dogg]

Oh right now I am natural.

All i use is a ECA stack and i'm quiting that because I've already been using it 3 weeks, 1 week to long.

[Pete235]

Originally posted by PaPaPumP
If you haven't noticed...I'm a little slow...

A little?

[PaPaPumP]

BRING IT PETEY!!!



As far as you go J-Dogg...if you're gonna do slin, you're gonna need all thsoe carbs, so start upping them now. Maybe get some test in there somewhere. You're risking going limp because od the fina....I see your cutting, but fina is rough for a first timer. Maybe go with a prop,winny,eq cycle...with slin the last 3 weeks.

[Pete235]

Originally posted by PaPaPumP
but fina is rough for a first timer. Maybe go with a prop,winny,eq cycle...with slin the last 3 weeks.

Good call Trips. Maybe cycle clen and an ECA and add some T3 as well. The AAS will keep you from going catabolic and you'll burn fat, not muscle. I'm running the same stack Trips suggested this winter, like this:

weeks 1-5 prop. @ 100mg/eod
weeks 1-10 EQ @ 400mg/week
weeks 5-10 winny@ 50mg/day
**weeks 5-10 T3 @ Days 1 75mcg (3 tab)
Days 2 100mcg (4 tab)
Days 3-20 125mcg (5 tab)
Days 21-24 100mcg (4 tab)
Days 25-28 75mcg (3 tab)
Days 29-32 50mcg (2 tab)
Days 33-36 25mcg (1 tab)
Days 37-42 12.5mcg (.5 tab)
weeks 1-10 clen Day 1 - 1 tab
Day 2 - 2 tabs
Day 3 - 3 tabs
Day 4 - 4 tabs
Day 5 - 5 tabs
Day 6-14 - 6 tabs
*Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off cycled with an ECA

[PaPaPumP]

Originally posted by Pete235


Good call Trips.

What, trying to get on my good side again...so trying to suck up I see....

[PaPaPumP]

Good call on the cycle though. I wanna run something like that down the road. Thanks for the idea. 50mged or 100mgeod of prop...winny final 5-6weeks 50mged (are you drinking, or sticking), and the EQ ...which im taking at the present, KICKS ASS! I can't even put my earring hoops on without having to take a break from the pump...it's awesome. Feels like a set of preacher curls...

[Pete235]

Based on suggestions from Mike, EC and some of the other vets I'll be running my prop @ 50mg ED. Since it's 100mg/ml I'll shoot .5cc ED. The winstrol is **s tabs 50mg each. Good to hear about the EQ. Do you think if I asked PA about EQ that he would recommend it ?

[PaPaPumP]

I dare you go to go on the steroid forum, and say in title


"Who likes Equip?"


And why?


LOL See what that crazy hound says....

[J-Dogg]

hrm.....

I'll have to read up more on all this.

So much to learn and so little time

[PaPaPumP]

Plenty of time!!! Be safe!

[Sicilian30]

daaaaaum papa man you eat like a freakin horse dude.. Give me some of what you are taking.. I can't eat that damn much I would puke..
But it is good seeing you on the boards still papa, unlike some of us who just leave and don't tell anyone.. eh? dem bas?ards.. Oh wait, that is what I did.. opppss..