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06-20-2012, 02:42 PM #1
3 solid meals???
I've been reading about nutrition for more than 10 years now and expierinced guys tell u to eat 6 meals a day bla bla bla...
But more expierienced guys (nutrition scientists and writers) tell u to (intermitted fasting.. 3 meals a day....bla bla)
What do u guys think would be the long term difference on body composition
From say a diet 250c 250p 50f on a 12% bf 170 lbs 5'7 person (in this case me)
Over 5 meals vs 3 meals with exact same food???
I'm no bodybuilder I train crossfit and care about the way I look and don't mind an increase in lean body weight but don't need to bulk I like my size....
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06-20-2012, 03:09 PM #2Banned
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good question, I cant see it making much of a difference really once its the same macros but I'm no expert on the subject and looking forward to seeing some educated opinions
I think it was Haz who said he eats 3 large meals a day, not sure if that has changed recently but by looking at his previous avi's it didnt seem to hamper him much lolLast edited by DanB; 06-20-2012 at 03:13 PM.
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06-20-2012, 05:27 PM #3
I firmly believe you would be leaner eating 3 larger meals. Why? Because obviously you'd be in a fasted state longer meaning stable and low levels of blood Sugar and Insulin and resulting higher levels of glucagon.
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06-20-2012, 06:24 PM #4Originally Posted by Tx89
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06-20-2012, 06:29 PM #5Originally Posted by Tx89
But if u eat more frequently, you will actually keep levels stable! But in saying all of this!
It's been proven that no matter if u eat 7 meals or 3meals as long as your getting the same macros then there is no significant difference! Obviously there will be practical implications with both these types of eating, do what fits your day best!
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06-20-2012, 06:43 PM #6Originally Posted by dooie
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06-20-2012, 06:53 PM #7Originally Posted by Mr_Prop_var_Testen
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06-20-2012, 07:20 PM #8
Meal timing and frequency is irrelevant as far as body composition goes imo. Hitting your macros each day is by far more important.
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06-20-2012, 11:00 PM #9Originally Posted by dooie
Also eating consistently will never give me as stable blood Sugar levels as fasting, how could it?
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06-20-2012, 11:46 PM #10New Member
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I've always wondered how it worked as I've stuck to the 6-7 meals a day while I'm on bulk cycle but in theory it makes more sense that only eating 3 meals a day would e better for bulking. As it slows down your metabolism because your body would breakdown digested food at a slower rate so it was able to supply energy as it was needed and also store larger amounts of glucose within muscle tissue and stored fat so it had excess energy when required between meals (fasting) where as eating more frequently 6-7 meals a day would increase your metabolism and therefore breakdown digested food at a faster rate and store less as it wasn't required to store as much it has a readily available source of digested food an therefore be better suited to cutting or fat loss?? Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm still reading an tryin to play with my own diet
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06-20-2012, 11:58 PM #11Originally Posted by Peter32
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06-21-2012, 07:31 AM #12Banned
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i think the important factor here is making sure you hit your macros whether its in 3-5-7-or even 8 meals. i like to you a the latter end as i don't have to worry about force feeding. think bout it like this: 150 grams a pro in 3 meals, or 56 grams a pro in 8 meals.
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06-21-2012, 07:34 AM #13Originally Posted by jpowellNO SOURCES GIVEN
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Originally Posted by SteM
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06-21-2012, 08:35 AM #16
I disagree, in part.
Every time you eat, you are raising glucose (and therefore insulin) levels some what. I don't care whether you're eating every 6-8 meals every few hours, or 3 meals in 8 hours. With the former, levels will rise for a short period, dip back down, and rise again for a short period at the next feeding. Rinse and repeat. With the latter example, levels will rise for a longer period (because the meal will be larger) but will not be any higher than with the first example (assuming the food choices are the same). i.e. the quantity of food doesn't dictate the severity of the 'spike' - the food choices themselves do. The quantity of food only dictates the duration of the 'spike'. A larger meal will simply take longer to digest than a smaller meal. This is along the same lines as the argument of smaller frequent feedings vs. fewer larger meals with regards to raising metabolism. Smaller frequent feedings do not raise metabolism; at the end of the day (figuratively speaking), your body has to metabolize 3000 calories (for example) whether said calories are taken in 8 meals, or 1.
Now with this I agree 100%. OP - some people do better eating smaller frequent meals (whether it's psychological, physiological, or a combination of both), and some do better with larger infrequent feedings. Like everything else in this lifestyle, you need to figure out what works best for your body via a little trial and error.
I disagree... as you know.
I agree. Calories in/calories out is the most important factor by far, but not the only factor, IMO. I am still a firm believer that nutrient timing does impact overall body composition.
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06-21-2012, 08:44 AM #17Originally Posted by jpowellNO SOURCES GIVEN
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06-21-2012, 08:47 AM #18
Dooie, you avatar is fkn unreal, I have nothing else to contribute.....
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06-21-2012, 08:55 AM #19
I personally prefer more meals spread throughout the day. My reasoning has nothing to do with which is better in sense of nutrition but rather in terms of satiety.
If I eat three large meals I find I am full right after but I still am very hungry in between which can often lead to more eating. WIth small meals I eat enough that it covers my cravings and needs and I never feel hungry in between as its a shorter period
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06-21-2012, 09:36 AM #20Originally Posted by Noles12;604***7
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06-21-2012, 10:16 AM #21Junior Member
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Many people are accidentally following pro bodybuilders route.
Not everyone 250lbs and lean,you do not need 400g pro per day,and not all the people do not go to work,6 meals a day is crazy,and unconvenient.
pro bbers eat 6 meals per day,because they can not finish all the foods if they eat 3 times a day.force feed is pain.
so reach your cals
then
3 meals g2g.
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06-21-2012, 10:20 AM #22Junior Member
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06-21-2012, 11:47 AM #23
Agreed. I don't think the bold is the ONLY reason, but definitely one of them.
General rule of thumb - 1.5g protein/lb of LBM is my protocol. At times a bit higher (2g max) but no lower, just not necessary. Too many people base their protein needs on total body weight which is a mistake. We shouldn't be taking bodyfat into account when calculating protein requirements, as bodyfat does not require protein to 'live'. I see so many people eating tons of protein and not enough carbs and fats... and wonder why they're not growing.
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