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    Talking Can I ?

    i don't have time to go to gym twice a day for cardio and lifting... so..
    if i go to gym first in the morning, do my 40 min cardio, then take a shake with protein and simple sugars (ernergy for lifting, Taken with R-ala) and protein (wait 15 min), then lift and take my PWO.

    or what will be best solution for me ?
    is this will be ideal for fat lost or not ?

    right now i go in the middle of the day, i do liftting + cardio + PWO (bad)

    also i have 2 or 3 questions...

    Sometimes can i take beer instead of a cheatmeal (Taken with R-ala) ?
    Is Small grean peas are good veggies?


    That's it!



    Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-F
    Is Small grean peas are good veggies?
    Thanks!!
    Green peas are bad. Very bad. Try brocolli instead.
    Last edited by beenie; 01-13-2004 at 10:42 AM.

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    well you could do what i did. Get a cheap ass tredmil and put it in your basement and do it in the mourning

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    im a student, i dont have a basement and money lol

    maybe Swole or Rambo will have advice for traning/shake question!

    tx guys

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    jf not to sound like an asshole.. but when i used to live on campus and had a 8 am class and the gym opens at 8.. i would get my sweats on and run around campus.. to regulate your heart rate get a cheap wrist watch that mointors HR.. its possible bro you just have to make it happen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElliotNess
    jf not to sound like an asshole.. but when i used to live on campus and had a 8 am class and the gym opens at 8.. i would get my sweats on and run around campus.. to regulate your heart rate get a cheap wrist watch that mointors HR.. its possible bro you just have to make it happen..
    yeah shure, that is not the point, maybe the workout/shake idea is totaly bad, but why not do it if it is good ?

    i have lost over 20% BF in the last year, don't think motivation free... i only want to deal with situation the better way possible...

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    20% bf?! wtf whats your bf now?

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    Not ideal at all.

    1) Working out AFTER cardio is not only draining, it fries your CNS leading to over-training.
    2) You'll lose no fat immediately chowing down sugars "for the energy" to workout. Raise that slin and the lipolysis stops cold turkey.
    3) That "energy" from the shake will last all of about 10 minutes, then you'll be half dead in lethargy from all the cardio and having your blood sugar plummet with the sugar and physical exertion after.

    Grean peas suck as a veggie source. Brocolli, zuchinni, cabbage, brussel sprouts, and green beans are good.

    Beer? Well, I don't even have to speak on that one.

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    swole cat, have i ever told you that you are man dawg!
    Do you think you can look at my thread "checkmeout"?
    your input i think would be very beneficial to me.

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    The beer thing is reasonable. I indulge in a few light "pops" a week and it doesn't seem too harmful. (Swole will even indulge in black russians from time to time, if memory serves me.)

    As for training, all I have ever heard is training after cardio is sacrelige. Too much Cortisol production no matter how you make up for it with nutrition.

    I don't know what your goals are but if you want weights and cardio... what about circuit training? This seems like it may be efficient for your needs.(Since seperation of the 2 is impossible for your timeline.)

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    Yeah, from time to time, fine.

    Replacing a meal w/beer though is what I was actually addressing.

    Black russians indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADAWG
    swole cat, have i ever told you that you are man dawg!
    Do you think you can look at my thread "checkmeout"?
    your input i think would be very beneficial to me.
    Appreciate it........I'll go see if I can comment.

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    I tried a black russian the other day in honor of you...

    You are definately more hardcore than I will ever be...

    I choked it down, though.

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElliotNess
    20% bf?! wtf whats your bf now?
    Now i am 16%, use to be 36%

    From 280 to 210...

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    [QUOTE =SwoleCat]Yeah, from time to time, fine.

    Replacing a meal w/beer though is what I was actually addressing. [/QUOTE]

    Hehe, what i mean is, sarturday is suposed to be my cheat day, if i don't cheat with food all day long, is it that much bad to take a couple of beer on saturday night...? (Taken with R-ALA )

    Thks Guys

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    J-F, what I think you are asking is a question I've been trying to find research on for quite some time. Obviously, you NEVER do cardio before a workout, but as to doing it after, and whether to take your shake before or after you hit cardio is the question I want an answer to.

    ON one hand, you miss your anabolic window by doing cardio after a workout, and taking the shake after.

    ON the other hand, taking the shake right after the workout, then doing cardio results in your body using the nutrients you just put in it, as opposed to burning fat.

    Welp, F'd if you do, F'd if you don't. Just try and space out your cardio and weights...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambo
    J-F, what I think you are asking is a question I've been trying to find research on for quite some time. Obviously, you NEVER do cardio before a workout, but as to doing it after, and whether to take your shake before or after you hit cardio is the question I want an answer to.

    ON one hand, you miss your anabolic window by doing cardio after a workout, and taking the shake after.

    ON the other hand, taking the shake right after the workout, then doing cardio results in your body using the nutrients you just put in it, as opposed to burning fat.

    Welp, F'd if you do, F'd if you don't. Just try and space out your cardio and weights...
    yeah i got it... as from next week ill start cardio in the morning, lift in the evening...

    is there any bad side to take my PWO shake with dextrose 2 hours before bed ?

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    A couple of beers isn't going to hurt you that much, provided you are really handling your business the other 6 days of the week. If you are, then cool.

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    Instead of that 40 min cardio, try high intesnity interval training immediately after your weight training. Wait 20-30 mins then have a shake. Not perfect but better.

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