need expert critique & a couple questions answered

[Beastie]

been checkin' this site out for about a year, and have learned a lot, i think. I wanted to modify my cutting diet based on some stuff i saw here. here it goes......

workout days 6:30am tues,thurs,sat
8am-abb mass recovery drink, 35g whey, 60g carbs
11am-lean protein,1/2 cup oatmeal
1pm-proteinshake/flax
4pm-leanprotein/veggies
7pm-proteinshake/flax
930pm-leanprotein/veggies

cardio days 7am mon,wed,fri
9am-lean protein-1/2 cup oatmeal
12pm-proteinshake/flax
3pm-leanprotein/veggies
6pm-proteinshake/flax
9pm-leanprotein/veggies

[Beastie]

if i use Glucorell-r, should i take two pills anytime i ingest carbs? and how long before i eat the carbs should i take them?

[Beastie]

oh yeah... and i also saw that a cheat meal is recommended every so often, how often would you say? and how should i fit them into this schedule?

[Beastie]

bump

[damiongage]

work out days eat a pro/carb meal pre work out
cheat meal every 7 days
also carb up to 300g carbs on cheat day

this is what works for me...

[bigsd67]

you take in a lot of protein shakes, which isnt terrible, but solid food is much better. also try to bump cardio to 5 or 6 days if you can...and on your workout days the only time you really really need carbs is PWO and PPWO carbs in the morning after doing cardio will halt fat loss.....if you want some really good guidelines check out the Unofficial cutting guide up top in the sticky threads...it has all the info you need...i have been following a similar diet for three months now with really good success.

[daman1]

you take in a lot of protein shakes, which isnt terrible, but solid food is much better. also try to bump cardio to 5 or 6 days if you can...and on your workout days the only time you really really need carbs is PWO and PPWO carbs in the morning after doing cardio will halt fat loss.....if you want some really good guidelines check out the Unofficial cutting guide up top in the sticky threads...it has all the info you need...i have been following a similar diet for three months now with really good success.

**** you man! you always beat me to the threads, lol.

[bigsd67]

**** you man! you always beat me to the threads, lol.

that surprises me seeing as though you have like 200 more posts than me.

[Spoon]

Would half a cup of oats and a can of tuna or some eggwhites do for a preworkout snack? say an hour before? THis is what i plan to do

Spoon

[bigsd67]

Would half a cup of oats and a can of tuna or some eggwhites do for a preworkout snack? say an hour before? THis is what i plan to do

Spoon

This has recently been hotly debated...all i will say is my own personal opinion and that is it's really not necessary to have carbs preworkout. if you have the proper amounts PWO then muscle catabolism will be staved. if you really feel strapped for energy than i guess you can eat the oats...personally i dont.

[daman1]

This has recently been hotly debated...all i will say is my own personal opinion and that is it's really not necessary to have carbs preworkout. if you have the proper amounts PWO then muscle catabolism will be staved. if you really feel strapped for energy than i guess you can eat the oats...personally i dont.

See I've gone both ways to test it out. Ive taken a preworkout meal and not. I got the same results. Ive heard from other member that a preworkout meal isnt necessary because your body doesnt have enough time to digest it before your workout.

[Spoon]

thanks guys! this nutrition thing is so new to me. takes a lot of hard work, planning and a whole lotta mental will! I guess its all psychological. when youve been so used to eating anything your whole life it takes a lot of discipline to ignore what your body actually can do without.

With regards to having carbs/protein before working out, i guess i just got used to people telling me that it was essential.

[Spoon]

thanks guys! this nutrition thing is so new to me. takes a lot of hard work, planning and a whole lotta mental will! I guess its all psychological. when youve been so used to eating anything your whole life it takes a lot of discipline to ignore what your body actually can do without.

With regards to having carbs/protein before working out, i guess i just got used to people telling me that it was essential.

[bigsd67]

With pre workout carbs what i would do is see how your energy levels are WITHOUT them. if you find that you can lift hard and still get in a really great workout than you will know that they arent really necessary.

During the summer i ate preworkout carbs and now that i dont, i dont see much of a difference energy wise, but i have seen the best results in my 3 years of watching what i eat in the last 3 months...im actually gonna post them up soon. anyways like i said try not eating carbs pre workout first to determine your energy. keep in mind that because you have heard that carbs pre work will give you energy your mind may tell you that you are tired. it's totally up to you to see what works.

[damiongage]

I was assumeing that your workout was 1st thing at 6:30. If this is the case I would have a pro/carb meal as it is the first of the day. If you workout later in the day than it is not as important. The way I read it was that you worked out @ 6:30 and your first meal was @ 8:00. Either way you need food right when you wake up.

[daman1]

I was assumeing that your workout was 1st thing at 6:30. If this is the case I would have a pro/carb meal as it is the first of the day. If you workout later in the day than it is not as important. The way I read it was that you worked out @ 6:30 and your first meal was @ 8:00. Either way you need food right when you wake up.

depends also on the TYPE of workout he's doing

[Beastie]

weight days are 6:30am, a mass recovery drink pwo, then ppwo meal with oats
cardio days are 7am, waiting an hour to eat, and i don't know if i should have carbs in this meal
i sell cars, that is why my schedule is this way. unfortunately, there is no other way for me.

[Beastie]

ive actually been working out this early, w/ no meals under my belt for the day, for a good eight months. i was on a keto diet at one point during this, and was working with as much intensity as ever.... so if the preworkout meal is suggested for me based on my energy level while working out, i don't think i need it.