An advocates opinion on combining P, F and C...Stirring the pot up again...
The following is from here... http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=671
"Honestly, I think it's about 99% Made-up, Non-Scientifically-Based, Voodoo-Bull**** Nutrition.
Reasoning:
- Fat consumption slows gastric emptying which will-- in some instances-- lower the insulin response to a meal, not raise it...
- Digested fatty acids can store themselves independent of insulin
- Furthermore, mobilizing bodyfat is regulated by HSL (hormone sensitive lipase), and every time you eat, no matter what it is (carbs, protein, fat, or any mixture of the three), you will activate HSL, so by not eating carbs with a meal, it's not like you're making bodyfat any more 'easy' to mobilize or utilize for energy. Yes, eating P+F meals will give you lower resting insulin levels for maybe a few hours or so (not to mention generally more stable blood sugar), but in the grand scheme of things, this is of very little import compared to your overall energy balance (really the only exceptions to this are around your workout time, which is when-- with a few very specific exceptions-- you want elevated insulin levels).
- Unless you are in ketosis, your body is never burning 'pure glucose.' That's simply not how the body works. Dietary macronutrient intake will determine the ratio of glucose:fat burned, but it can never dictate what will be burned & what will be stored when...
- Saying not to consume "Carbs & Fat" together as a blanket statement is just assinine. There is a big difference (in terms of your body's response and the effects on the body) between eating--
1 8 oz. Sweet Potato & 10g of Fish Oil
vs.
1 Bowl of Pasta Alfredo
People should be intelligent and not eat calorie-dense foods containing carbs & fats together. It's the actual food choices (Muffins, Pizzas, Doughnuts, etc.) that combine unsatiating, highly refined, high II & GI carbs with high amounts of fat and no protein that is promoting the obesity epidemic, not the practice of eating carbs & fats together. They may seem/sound like one and the same, but they're completely not. Lastly, your body struggles to adapt even to keep track of 24-Hour energy balance, and there is simply no way that eating carbs & fats together (especially if they resemble the first meal example I illustrated above) can be said to be that detrimental, and-- provided energy in (calories) is not > energy burned-- eating carbs/fat together will contribute no more to weight gain than eating them separately...
if you simply look at the science, you will see there is simply no basis for this approach whatsoever outside of steering people away from calorically-dense foods, most of which often contain large amounts of F + refined CHO (think a piece of cheese-cake)...
So to reiterate, Loki has concluded that a.) Humans were never intended to eat this way and b.) With the only exception being periods where you're eating amounts of food RIDICULOUSLY HIGHER THAN YOUR MAINTENANCE CALORIE INTAKE, following said practice isn't going to make a friggity' **** of a difference...
If anyone is really still adamant about still adhering to the P+F & P + C nutritional approach after reading the above, I say enjoy, and I also have a patented 'Anti-Tiger Rock' that I'm selling at a highly competitive price. PM me if you're interested...
Basically, what I'm saying is, what Berandi wanted to do with the PF/PC thing was to make people eat healthy diets. It's actually quite hard to eat unhealthy if you adhere rigidly to the plan because you can't eat most junkfood if you stick to the regimen as he has it laid out. But what annoys me is the fact that he basically made up this whole scientific basis just to brainwash readers into thinking that there was 'more too it' than that. The only goal is to make you eat a healthy diet, and the fact is, if you ARE eating a healthy diet, then it makes NO SENSE to split up your macronutrient consumption like that...
IN FACT, in terms of EFA consumption (Fish Oil, Olive Oil, Sesamin), it is much BETTER to consume them with carbohydrates than to take them without carbs, because there is a higher chance they will be temporarily incorporated into your phospholipid membrane if you take them with glucose (rather than being almost immediately oxidized by the body). Really, when you're eating carbs is the BEST TIME to eat essential fats. But, obviously, if you're sticking to P + F / P + C, you can't reap that benefit.
It's all about long-term energy balance, really, and PF/PC is so unnecessary it's not even funny...."
