Thread: critique this lean bulk
03-24-2004, 12:07 PM #1
critique this lean bulk
bros,what do you think about this for a lean bulk?
6' 209 10.5% bf
1-12 500 mg test e
1. 2 scoops whey 220 cal
peanuts 300 cal
2.tuna 150 cal
2 pcs. whole wheat bread 200 cal
1/2 cup oatmeal 150 cal
3.beef 400 cals
peanuts unsalted 300 cal
4.tuna 150 cal
oatmeal 300 cal
prewortout 2 cups milk 180 cals
1 scoop protien 110 cals
pwo 2 cups milk 180 cal
2 scoops protien 220 cals
dextrose 100 cals
5.tuna 300 cal
whole wheat pasta 300 cal
6.cottage cheese 150
peanuts 300 cals
fish oil 40 cals
4050 total cals 390 g protien 250 carbs
what do you bros think is this a good clean bulk?
03-24-2004, 12:29 PM #2
I would say you are better to go with more than 6 meals when bulking...Shoot for 8-9! And I would go with a higher carb to protein ratio... something like C45% P40% F15% ratio at around 4000 calories... Considering your size and the fact that you are 'supplementing' chances are you could bump up the calories to 4500...
How did you get your body comp tested... got any photos?
03-24-2004, 12:38 PM #3
more meals is what id go with as well, beef, eat beef whenever i bulk i up my beef intake alot and it usually works great.....
03-24-2004, 12:52 PM #4Originally Posted by Andre Avigdor
03-24-2004, 09:41 PM #5AR Hall of Fame
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If you want a TRUE lean bulk, you are going to NOT want to mix fat/carbs together at the same meal. Still include all 3 macros, yes, but you must group them together when they can provide lean mass and not fat (__!__). You still eat the same amount/breakdown of actual food, it's just HOW you eat it that determines HOW you come out looking.
I.E., selectively eating intelligently will work, but shoveling down the same stuff and expecting your body to just "know" what you want it to do, is not going to happen.
03-24-2004, 10:12 PM #6
Why such a small dextrose amount PWO? Your Carb to protein needs to be 2:1 at this meal. I would change that to 1 scoop of protein and atleast 1/3 cup dextrose (about 51 carbs, 165 calories i believe) JMO
03-24-2004, 11:29 PM #7
cat,where am i mixing carbs and fats together?
how this diet look?
03-24-2004, 11:33 PM #8Originally Posted by test is best
03-24-2004, 11:36 PM #9Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
i dont see it
03-25-2004, 10:10 AM #10Originally Posted by test is best
03-25-2004, 10:30 AM #11Originally Posted by daman1
are you talking about 1.5 grams of fat in a can of tuna?
what would you reccomend?
03-25-2004, 10:55 AM #12
Yea how can you call the low ammount of fat in tuna mixing fats and carbs? It is nearly impossible to take in any kind of protein besides egg whites without atleast taking in 1-2 grams of fat. Hell even a whey protein shake has atleast 1 gram of fat. Where is he specifically mixing the carbs and fats? I would guess they may not like that your using peanuts... they wouldn't be my nut of choice or anyone elses. I prefer almonds... and so does everyone else. Lots of fiber and very low ammount of carbs. But that is all I can really see.
Daman will you clarify as I am curious too
03-25-2004, 11:20 AM #13Originally Posted by test is best
03-25-2004, 11:25 AM #14
LOL.... ok so what kind of protein should he (and myself) eat then that has 0 fat in it? Even chicken breasts have like .5-1 gram of fat.... it is virtually impossible not to have atleast 1-2 grams of fat with your protein no matter what form or how lean. **** even whey protein has 1 gram of fat. Suggestions?? Cause I am just as anal as you are, I was just unaware that a few grams of fat was considered mixing fats/carbs. I thought on both sides 1-5 grams either way was considered acceptable. I mean its the same with carbs... its almost impossible to not have atleast 1-4 carbs per meal if you use whey protein or peanut butter.... **** even salad dressing has 1 carb in it if it is full fat. The only time of the day I get 0 carbs in when I eat tuna with full fat mayo.
03-25-2004, 11:35 AM #15Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
most whey isolate have NO fat.
03-25-2004, 11:39 AM #16
Really what kind is that?
Even allthewhey has < 1g fat.... which I count as 1. ON's whey has 1 gram also. Like I said... it is virtually impossible to take in 0 fat with any form of protein. Unless you have a george forman grill I heard those things kick ass for melting the fat out of meats.
03-25-2004, 11:42 AM #17
i will switch to almonds,other than the peanuts i think this is a good lean bulk,i wonder
what swole cat would reccomend i do if anything,maybe ill through him some cash?
03-25-2004, 11:54 AM #18Originally Posted by test is best
I am sure if you are patient he will reply. But I would suggest if you are unsure or don't think you can organize your diet on your own that you go with one of Swole's programs. I have heard nothing but great things about them.
03-25-2004, 12:15 PM #19
03-25-2004, 12:26 PM #20
what would you do to get it perfect?
drink isopure all day?
03-25-2004, 12:37 PM #21
Nah bro.... just instead of using Tuna which has 1.5 grams of fat per serving... try using tuna if you are going to eat the oats. Almost no fat with some brands.... like .5g and if you use a grill or something I am sure you can make it so there is 0 fat. Use tuna for your Pro/Fat meals... just try to keep your fats below 2 grams when taking in large ammounts of carbs like that. You should be fine.
03-25-2004, 02:15 PM #22
isopure does have fat but since by fda standards they can list it under 0 grams since it has less then one gram..
03-25-2004, 02:16 PM #23
also swole that back pic is sick.. you have to see a doctor.. hardy har har..
03-25-2004, 11:28 PM #24
Even oatmeal has fat!! 3 g's per 1/2 cup, so to be anal enough like that is ridiculous Daman...I figure if its less then 5 g's you are okay, over 15g is a fat meal....
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