PGCL protocol

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2007, 03:28 PM

OK any and all suggestions are welcomed! so please chime in and keep this bumped for those who have lil knowledge/experience kan see this

heres wat im doing. Just started today

i will be doing 25mcg in each tit (gyno locations) to see if it kan reduce them.
i will be diong 35mcg in each BI moving around the area
this will be conducted 3x a day for a total of 3 x 120mcg

the first session is between 5-5:30 am bout 30min pre cardio. since my stomache is empty the shits are really short.

next shot is mid afternoon 2hrs after that meal and 45min before the next meal.

not sure bout the 3rd administration.. going to do it .. 1.5hrs before bed (before pre med meal)

i will be running this for bout 10 days and hopefully i wont kill over
kuz man my stomache is IN NOTS right now bout to die! lol

**kfrost06** · 05-01-2007, 03:38 PM

I've been hearing a lot about PGCL. I am glad that your doing this so we can get some real feedback.

Thanks!

**skipp** · 05-01-2007, 03:42 PM

Take some pics big buddy.. At least to track progress, you don't have to post em.

**Dog-Slime** · 05-01-2007, 03:57 PM

Do you have breast tissue? Have heard it only helps reduce the fatty part of the gyno. Very curious as to how well it works and if it can reduce the gland any.

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2007, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dog-Slime

Do you have breast tissue? Have heard it only helps reduce the fatty part of the gyno. Very curious as to how well it works and if it can reduce the gland any.

i have 2 nice hard round gyno lumps on my right pec and 1 smaller one on my left.
everyone says they are not noticable at all and no one can see them but they stand out like brilliant beacons to me ><

and wow
the cramps this pgcl gives me are INSANE!
now i know wat women go through whn they PMS

**chest6** · 05-01-2007, 04:15 PM

Lol dont die man...

ur my guinea pig on this stuff

**1buffsob** · 05-01-2007, 04:42 PM

Sweet man. I've been waiting for a good log on this.

**vein5** · 05-01-2007, 04:59 PM

Post a seperate thread for a log. When I heard about this stuff I was a bit skeptical.

**fLgAtOr** · 05-01-2007, 06:30 PM

So are you going right into the tissue or around that area?

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2007, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

So are you going right into the tissue or around that area?

yep i grab the lilknots and poke RIGHT next to them.. NOT INTO >< lol
i have had my right gyno stabbed when i had my nipples pierced and the pain is nausiating.

IM in bi's
SUBQ in tits.

and its only been 2 120mcg administrations and my bi's are already FULLER! its krazy lol and they are harder

weird thing is .. its not SWELLING kuz there is no redness no pain no nothing..

all injections are perfectly painless
i mixed the solution so its 100mcg/ml

**Dog-Slime** · 05-01-2007, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

yep i grab the lilknots and poke RIGHT next to them.. NOT INTO >< lol
i have had my right gyno stabbed when i had my nipples pierced and the pain is nausiating.

IM in bi's
SUBQ in tits.

and its only been 2 120mcg administrations and my bi's are already FULLER! its krazy lol and they are harder

weird thing is .. its not SWELLING kuz there is no redness no pain no nothing..

all injections are perfectly painless
i mixed the solution so its 100mcg/ml

I heard if you shoot it IN the gyno it can make it go away otherwise it just rids the fat. Yet others have said it only helps the fat....

Take one for the team and shoot it into the lumps.

**spicyer** · 05-01-2007, 09:47 PM

Interesting that your first is pre cardio. When I was on PGCL I found that even on an empty stomach I couldn't do anything too strenous. Also even with an empty stomach the shits were present, even water went straight through. My shots were am after cardio and pm after weights. I agree with the fullness, it is amazing. I swear my bi's grew in a few days, next time I'll keep a log. Good Luck!

**JMC** · 05-01-2007, 09:49 PM

can someone give me an overview on what exactly this stuff is? I got some gyno I would love to get rid of

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2007, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dog-Slime

I heard if you shoot it IN the gyno it can make it go away otherwise it just rids the fat. Yet others have said it only helps the fat....

Take one for the team and shoot it into the lumps.

oh wow that is going to hurt but ok lol

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2007, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by spicyer

Interesting that your first is pre cardio. When I was on PGCL I found that even on an empty stomach I couldn't do anything too strenous. Also even with an empty stomach the shits were present, even water went straight through. My shots were am after cardio and pm after weights. I agree with the fullness, it is amazing. I swear my bi's grew in a few days, next time I'll keep a log. Good Luck!

nah precardio will be fine im only miserable for like 30min or so thats bout how long it takes me to get my ass up in the morning so should workout well.

**GHO5T** · 05-01-2007, 10:25 PM

Hey tai,

Are you noticing more of a localized fat loss if you shoot sub q, and more of an overall fat loss when shooting IM?

The source im getting mine from, recommends not shooting sub q, and recommends shooting as far away from the a**ominal region as possible.

Your thoughts on this.

thanks man

~GHO5T~

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2007, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by GHO5T

Hey tai,

Are you noticing more of a localized fat loss if you shoot sub q, and more of an overall fat loss when shooting IM?

The source im getting mine from, recommends not shooting sub q, and recommends shooting as far away from the a**ominal region as possible.

Your thoughts on this.

thanks man

~GHO5T~

i will let u know bout the fat loss in 2 days.
people i know all say its localized fat loss subQ some report good success w/gettin rid of lovehandles w/ it. its too soon to say for fatloss yet as im still dropping mad water weight

**GHO5T** · 05-01-2007, 10:34 PM

What about the recommendation of shooting as far away from the a**ominal region as possible?

Do you think one can shoot in the abs and be fine or should one avoid doing so.

Not excatly sure, but it has something to do with your smooth muscles contracting?

~GHO5T~

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2007, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by GHO5T

What about the recommendation of shooting as far away from the a**ominal region as possible?

Do you think one can shoot in the abs and be fine or should one avoid doing so.

Not excatly sure, but it has something to do with your smooth muscles contracting?

~GHO5T~

ur not injecting into the smoothe muscle tissue of ur intestintes or stomache so i dont see why u cant inject into any subQ area. i was told u can do it anywhere u want to aid in localized fat loss as well as any IM area to induce localized muscle growth/hardness

**GHO5T** · 05-01-2007, 10:41 PM

Thanks for the info bro. Looking forward to seeing your results and your final thoughts upon completion of the cycle.

~GHO5T~

**Dog-Slime** · 05-02-2007, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

oh wow that is going to hurt but ok lol

Your the man. I am eagerly awaiting your results.

**SMAN12b** · 05-02-2007, 08:59 AM

Great log Tai, very interesting!!

**Dangerdan** · 05-02-2007, 08:59 AM

I'll be following this as well, athough I had to google PGCL to even find out what you were talking about, lol.

**spywizard** · 05-02-2007, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

OK any and all suggestions are welcomed! so please chime in and keep this bumped for those who have lil knowledge/experience kan see this

heres wat im doing. Just started today

i will be doing 25mcg in each tit (gyno locations) to see if it kan reduce them.
i will be diong 35mcg in each BI moving around the area
this will be conducted 3x a day for a total of 3 x 120mcg

the first session is between 5-5:30 am bout 30min pre cardio. since my stomache is empty the shits are really short.

next shot is mid afternoon 2hrs after that meal and 45min before the next meal.

not sure bout the 3rd administration.. going to do it .. 1.5hrs before bed (before pre med meal)

i will be running this for bout 10 days and hopefully i wont kill over
kuz man my stomache is IN NOTS right now bout to die! lol

way cool, i should have mine in next week..

**spywizard** · 05-02-2007, 09:06 AM

noticing any "Bite" at the injection site??

**taiboxa** · 05-02-2007, 09:08 AM

as neat as this stuff is the sides are rather obnoxious.. the shit isnt anything special.. its just like i took 20g of metamucil or something but the kicker is the CRAMPING its pretty much nonstop and im pretty certain its kuz i have a slow and fast rate of release i.e. subq and IM.
all i can say is after im done w/ this shit i better be like 350lbs w/ 4% bf and able to life houses.

**taiboxa** · 05-02-2007, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by spywizard

noticing any "Bite" at the injection site??

absolutly NONE at all, thats wat freaked me at first LOL i injected.. ABSOLUTLY NOTHING.. hcg hurts worse lol and i was like
"WTF bogus lame weak fake shyt"
so i remember they said it takes 20min to hit ur smoothe muscle tissue so im like - guess i gotta wait..
7min go by
BLAM!
KRAMPS LIKE IM GIVING BIRTH to a llama!
kramps never ever go away.. they just decrease in intensity

which is due to the fact, i think, that my dosage is way high.

**Snrf** · 05-02-2007, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i think, that my dosage is way high.

you're a loon tai

**taiboxa** · 05-02-2007, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

you're a loon tai

wow
i just sharted
man this shit sucks LOL

**RobbieG** · 05-02-2007, 10:20 AM

why such a high dose ?

maniac..

**spywizard** · 05-02-2007, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by RobbieG

why such a high dose ?

maniac..

magic pill syndrome and no one has done it yet..

**vein5** · 05-02-2007, 05:08 PM

It sounds like this pgcl just flushes all waste and fluids out of your system. What other benifits does it have?

**fLgAtOr** · 05-02-2007, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by RobbieG

why such a high dose ?

maniac..

He consistently donates his body for science.

And for that, we thank him.

**1buffsob** · 05-02-2007, 08:52 PM

Either he's dead or he can't get off the toliet. Either way, I can't wait to try it.

**taiboxa** · 05-03-2007, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

Either he's dead or he can't get off the toliet. Either way, I can't wait to try it.

lol nah just very busy...and stuff is working fairly well but for yesterday today and tomarrow im not going to look in the mirror or hop on the scale... makes the results more fun that way
and last night i learned why it shud be taken on an EMPTY stomache.. it was pretty bad

**RobbieG** · 05-03-2007, 05:10 AM

BF% day 1 and bf% after ?!

**1buffsob** · 05-03-2007, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

lol nah just very busy...and stuff is working fairly well but for yesterday today and tomarrow im not going to look in the mirror or hop on the scale... makes the results more fun that way
and last night i learned why it shud be taken on an EMPTY stomache.. it was pretty bad

HAHA. Oh man that sucks. How long of a time frame do you have after you shoot that you can eat?

**taiboxa** · 05-03-2007, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

HAHA. Oh man that sucks. How long of a time frame do you have after you shoot that you can eat?

usually bout 2hrs after shot i can eat assuming i took it on stomache.. i have tried to eat 1hr afterwards.. but when i did i got real bad indigestion/heartburn and it made my stomache kranky but i didnt get shits or anything like that.. just a bad stomache ache.

if i eat a good meal then inject w/in an hour i get the runs for like 2hrs >< and horrible kramping as well.

**taiboxa** · 05-03-2007, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by RobbieG

BF% day 1 and bf% after ?!

bf% is kinda irrelevant as im already dieting and dropping bf fairly easily. im just using the pgcl to nerf some gyno and possibly gain/retain the muscle on my bi's as they are pretty much my only lagging muscle group.