Formula for Cycling and Dosing T3
One subject that keeps coming up that many people have difficulty is with properly dosing and tapering T3.
Now while THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER for the persistent rumor that improper t3 use will shut down your thyroid forever, it is also not something to take lightly and like all AAS, should be respected. Ive come up with a formula based on the research Ive done, and both theory as well as practical experience point that it should work well for your fat burning goals as well as give you a proper taper so that the thyroid is able to recover its normal function as quickly as possible. The key to this is having a long enough taper coming off of it. Since origionally designing this formula some will note that I have taken 5% off of the ramp period and placed it toward the back taper insted - this is because I have become convinced that in the presences of exogeneous supplementation, the thyroid shuts down fairly quickly and so the better to spend that time on the taper down.
NOTE 1: If you have never used T3 before, it is suggested that you lessen your constant time and increase your ramp up period to determin your reaction to t3 before heavy use.
NOTE 2: Synthroid (t4) may also be used to good effect with this formula but of course the maximums are diffferent - the ratio of t4:t3 is about 4:1 or 4.5:1 so 100mcg of t3=about 400-450mcg of t4
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CYCLEONS T3 CYCLE FORMULA
Its pretty simple really – 5/40/55 is a time-based formula whereby X% of the time of the entire cycle should be spent in one of 3 periods – up/constant/down:
RULE – 1
5% of the time is spent ramping up to your maximum
40% of the time is at your maximum
55% of the time is spent ramping down to cessation (nothing)
RULE – 2
Each up/down period is further broken down into equal segments for each dosing level with the emphasis being the dosing level toward the end of the period.
RULE – 3
I dont ever recommend taking more than 125mcg per day and 100mcg will do for most. Above this amount is quite catabolic without hefty concurrent doses of AAS. There are those who advocate higher doses and it is feasible to do so but IMO the effectiveness gains above 100-125mcg are not really worth it.
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Example 1
An example for a 20-day cycle with a max of 100mcg ED using 25mcg pills. Calculate the number of days of each period first (Notice that where the up/down period is unable to be broken into 3 exactly equal parts, the extra is put on the dose level at the last part of the period. (.5) means 1/2 a pill or 12.5mcg
UP CONST DOWN
4 days 6days 10days
5% 40% 55%
2 44444444 33222111.5.5.5
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Example 2
An example for a 60-day cycle with a max of 125mcg ED using 25mcg pills. Notice that where the up/down period is unable to be broken into 3 exactly equal parts, the extra is put on the dose level at the last part of the period.
UP CONST DOWN
12 days 18days 30days
5% 40% 55%
234 555555555555555555555555 44444433333322222221111111.5.5.5.5.5.5.5
Hope this helps someone!
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Here is another way of looking at it!!
I got this post from elite thought you would like some more info on this subject.
Some folks do find that one week on clen, one week on eca works better for them, but the main point is that the two day on, two day off is NOT the way to take clen. And by then end of 8 weeks, you will need a break from both the clen and the eca.
One other point of interest would be adding in the Yohim. Take a look at some of he threads by Macro on this.
I just got to chuckle at all you "less than 50mcg" T3 folks. My guinea pigs START at 50mcg and quickly ramp up. Then take a LONG time to comedown. The taper down is the most important part - you must give your body enough time to re-start normal production.
We let them ramp up based on how they are effected - I let them decide... we increase the dose every three days until they hit a dose where they feel "uncomfortable". We then back off 25mcgs and then hold at that level for a good six days, then start the tapering back down.
Each respond differently to the dosage, and adding in eca/clen will also come into play. Some top out quick at 125/150, while I have gone to 250. And I've not really seen to much difference from men or women - as in it don't seem to matter how big or small you are. But this is just anecdotal observations.
If you tilt you head to the right, you will see my attempt to make a graph of a typical dosing schedule. Each dot is 12.5mcgs of T3 and the interval is three days. This is an 8 week cycle where we jump in with both feet, ramp up quick, hold, then back off with a nice long taper
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So on day one you would take four 12.5mcg doses of T3 every day. Now I like to spread the dose out. But I don’t think it really matters much if you were to take 25mcg in the morning and 25mcg in the afternoon. In other words, it’s not a big deal to take four SEPERATE12.5mcg doses (no fan of cutting tabs). After three days, you would go to 75mcg, Say 25 in the morning, 25 in the afternoon, and 25 in the evening.
And notice the LONG tapper back down. This is key.
I also like to make the anabolic used during the cycle longer than the T3/eca/clen cycle to prevent as much muscle loss as possible. So start one week prior to the T3 and keep on one week after. This would give you a 10 week total cycle for cutting.
Now “uncomfortable” is not the most scientific term LOL, but you WILL know it. Shaky, skidish, like you just pounded a 12 of Mt Dew.... And about the dosing schedule, I suggest one takes it through out the day. From all accounts, you just can't say take "x" amount of T3 and you will get "x" results. If you find that taking it on an empty stomach means you use less while getting the same effect, then hell, by all means take it on an empty gut. Myself, and a few others seem to do better if it don't kick in quite as fast, so I take it with food. But again - that’s just me.
I've posted this so many times that I almost have given up, if anyone can show me proof that over doing T3 kills your thyroid.... (Yes, while your 'on' T3 it shuts down) but your thyroid WILL START BACK UP and if you do a solid slow taper, you can avoid the rebound.