Was it worth it?

**jump100** · 05-04-2014, 01:40 PM

Folks:
Everywhere I turn to for information about testosterone , the indisputable argument, according to these articles, is that this hormone is not only responsible for men’s well-being, but it’s also instrumental to their success in life. We are told that highly successful men have high testosterone , and as a result they are the alpha males in our society – these highly testosterone charged men dominate in sports, business and politics.

Well, now that you are injecting success into your bodies, have you noticed any difference in ambition, energy, confidence and dominance? Are you more productive in your profession or more competitive at any given task?

I personally do not believe it is as simple as a 100mg injection, except for, perhaps, a boost in energy?

**Times Roman** · 05-04-2014, 02:36 PM

TRT takes about three years to fully kick in.

hormone levels can and do change behavior. One example is libido.

When your sexual batteries are fully charged, your thought process becomes different than before TRT.

And not only in sexual ways. TRT can change your physical profile. You become leaner, and your body begins to feel better. As a result, you may engage in physical activities more frequently than before.

In fact, testosterone changes our moods and our behaviors.

Testosterone makes us men.

**Brett N** · 05-04-2014, 02:45 PM

Since starting TRT, I can definitely tell I have more drive. I want more of life than what I was settling for earlier. Career, family, self worth, and motivation to just be a better person have all become my focus. I credit the TRT but it could just be that TRT has gotten things where they belong and now I just dont lie around all day feeling sorry for myself.

**Score** · 05-04-2014, 07:57 PM

I believe it's not that simple as well. I believe it assists those of us that chose to be on it in achieving what is very challenging to achieve in general.

First of all it's not that easy to get on, so it takes a person involved in their own well being which sadly many people are not. It took me three years to convince my doc. That is the same determination that I apply to other facets of my life.

It has extended my days, I no longer tank around 7pm and therefore I get more done. Wether it's quality time with my family, a second work out, a better dinner due to cooking at home (which leads to better lunch the next day through leftovers), etc..

I do have a new energy at work and it's due to an increased competitive drive. I had lost a lot of competitiveness which didn't concern me much, caused me to give up softball, men's league basketball, etc.. The things I really didn't need to be doing at my age, but with that I didn't realize how much drive at work I had lost. With my business I compete with others on a national level and the extra drive has helped push me, and therefore my colleagues too.

It has caused me to pay more attention to my wife which I love. I'm playing "the game" again, trying to get her in bed as much as possible. Just like when we were younger she is annoyed by it but I know she eats up the attention and she no longer feels insecure about me not chasing her around.

TRT has not changed me as a person, it has amplified me (who I already was). Allowed me gains in the weight room I have been chasing for years and not achieved. Increased my confidence, labido and desires.

It's NOT for everyone, it's not for the guy that bitches about cost of insurance yet buys a 100 inch flat screen TV for every room in his house. It's not for the guy that would rather hit a MCDs drive thru than go home and stir fry some chicken and make some brown rice. In my opinion it's for those of us that are already on the path to their goals and desires and it's just a little extra gas in the tank.

PBWU

**ironbeck** · 05-04-2014, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Score

I believe it's not that simple as well. I believe it assists those of us that chose to be on it in achieving what is very challenging to achieve in general.

First of all it's not that easy to get on, so it takes a person involved in their own well being which sadly many people are not. It took me three years to convince my doc. That is the same determination that I apply to other facets of my life.

It has extended my days, I no longer tank around 7pm and therefore I get more done. Wether it's quality time with my family, a second work out, a better dinner due to cooking at home (which leads to better lunch the next day through leftovers), etc..

I do have a new energy at work and it's due to an increased competitive drive. I had lost a lot of competitiveness which didn't concern me much, caused me to give up softball, men's league basketball, etc.. The things I really didn't need to be doing at my age, but with that I didn't realize how much drive at work I had lost. With my business I compete with others on a national level and the extra drive has helped push me, and therefore my colleagues too.

It has caused me to pay more attention to my wife which I love. I'm playing "the game" again, trying to get her in bed as much as possible. Just like when we were younger she is annoyed by it but I know she eats up the attention and she no longer feels insecure about me not chasing her around.

TRT has not changed me as a person, it has amplified me (who I already was). Allowed me gains in the weight room I have been chasing for years and not achieved. Increased my confidence, labido and desires.

It's NOT for everyone, it's not for the guy that bitches about cost of insurance yet buys a 100 inch flat screen TV for every room in his house. It's not for the guy that would rather hit a MCDs drive thru than go home and stir fry some chicken and make some brown rice. In my opinion it's for those of us that are already on the path to their goals and desires and it's just a little extra gas in the tank.

PBWU

couldnr read it all, dam your long winded.

**sfgiantsfan55** · 05-05-2014, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by jump100

Folks:
Everywhere I turn to for information about testosterone , the indisputable argument, according to these articles, is that this hormone is not only responsible for men’s well-being, but it’s also instrumental to their success in life. We are told that highly successful men have high testosterone , and as a result they are the alpha males in our society – these highly testosterone charged men dominate in sports, business and politics.

Well, now that you are injecting success into your bodies, have you noticed any difference in ambition, energy, confidence and dominance? Are you more productive in your profession or more competitive at any given task?

I personally do not believe it is as simple as a 100mg injection, except for, perhaps, a boost in energy?

my 2 cents"... T doesnt do jack for any of that (well at least for me) further i think any real guy worth a damn isnt gonna be effected by a few chemicals. I take the shots to look better in the gym and such. not "cycling" by a long shot, but a helluva lot better than id be with mother nature alone.

**PistolPete33** · 05-05-2014, 10:34 AM

Everything in my life has improved ten times over since starting TRT about a year and a half ago. I have way more drive to succeed at work. I own my own business so it's a little different. My relationships are better, I'm more focused, I'm stronger, leaner, more active, and just feel awesome. Would never go back.

**Low Testosterone** · 05-05-2014, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

TRT takes about three years to fully kick in.

hormone levels can and do change behavior. One example is libido.

When your sexual batteries are fully charged, your thought process becomes different than before TRT.

And not only in sexual ways. TRT can change your physical profile. You become leaner, and your body begins to feel better. As a result, you may engage in physical activities more frequently than before.

In fact, testosterone changes our moods and our behaviors.

Testosterone makes us men.

While three years may be a little excessive, it's not that far off if we're looking at the full scope. Most men should be well improved within a year, assuming things were done correctly, they did not discontinue treatment for a few months during that time and no other health factors are at play. A healthy lifestyle also plays an important role. The problems, however, are as follows:

1. Starting and stopping: Missing an injection here and there isn't the end of the world and shouldn't make that big of a difference. The problem, most men stay on treatment for 6 months, discontinue for 3-4 months to a year and start over. They repeat this cycle many times. It's virtually impossible for TRT to be successful this way.

2. Expectations: Often unrealistic - people tend to expect testosterone to transform their life overnight. They also tend to expect the changes to be super-human. Good things can happen in the short-run, improvements can be made. But the idea that you inject and feel like a million bucks in a week or two is false and largely a placebo effect if it occurs.

3. Damage: Low levels cause damage to the body - repair takes time.

4. Lifestyle: Many of us continue to live unhealthy lifestyles. It's very common for men to start eating cleaner and exercising more when they start TRT but it's just as common for these good habits to fall to the wayside within a few months.

Solution: If you have patience and realistic expectations, TRT can dramatically improve your life. Unfortunately, most do not possess these traits when it comes to TRT. I was guilty of the same when I first became interested in testosterone simply because the manner by-which it's perceived in society.

**kcwebguy** · 05-05-2014, 01:49 PM

I'm only about 7 weeks in and I can tell you that every single day is a new and better day for me. Energy, drive, desire, libido, ambition... it's been a God send for me.

I believe this has been a (mostly) missing ingredient in the past 20 years of my life.

**Beethoven** · 05-05-2014, 03:43 PM

Test won't give you something that you may have never had. But it will turn the clock back to whom you were at a time in the past when you were younger. But it won't make you the next Donald Trump if you never had it in you in the first place. It has been great for me. It does help in many ways. For instance, I eat cleaner again, have dropped 25# thus far which has me weaning myself off bp meds. Looking better, making gains in the gym, and chasing the wife all over the place.

**sparverius** · 05-05-2014, 04:16 PM

TRT is not to make you feel younger or more dominant. It's correcting a medical problem.

From what my doctors tell me, surgery to remove a testicular tumor damaged one of my testicals and the other eventually stopped producing sufficient testosterone . When I finally went to the doctor (in my mid 40s) my T levels were that of an 85 year old. I could not think straight or walk up a flight of stairs without taking a rest and I was very depressed. It took about three months of dialing in my Androgel dose to get me feeling normal.

Is that worth it? Hell yes. Just the health benefits alone would be (low T causes a lot of problems) but lifting the depression is a lifesaver. Not to mention being able to think clearly again.

Is it worth it if you're not suffering from symptoms and just want to feel younger or dominant? Hell no. You'll screw up your system forever. Forget having kids. Artificial testosterone is not as good as natural production. See this forum for all the things that you may need to take to address deficiencies, and difficulties in dialing in a protocol that makes you feel normal.