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    psa going up

    my PSA has always been .1, and now after a month on HRT it is .3, do you think it will continue to increase or will it stablize? i get yearly checkups and i already take proscar thanks

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    I honestly don't know, but I would go more than once a year if it has risen. Don't want to mess around with that.

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    It's normal to increase slightly under a TRT protocol and it will stabilize. You don't, however, want it to go over 1.

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    thanks,... all my doctors that know that i'm on HRT,.... said they worry that Test. therpy would cause cancer of the prostate , and raising PSA levels

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    Prostate cancer and Test is old school. More modern research studies have debunked this theory. Think about it for a minute; why do older men with low T and high E2 levels are higher risk of prostate cancer but 20 year olds with high T and low E2 levels at extremely low risk of prostate cancer???

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    Testosterone and prostate cancer: what are the risks for middle-aged men?

    Urol Clin North Am. 2011 May;38(2):119-24

    Authors: Morgentaler A

    With increased recognition of the benefits of testosterone (T) therapy for middle-aged men, there has been a concomitant reexamination of the historical fear that raising T will result in more prostate cancer (PCa). Studies have failed to show increased risk of PCa in men with higher serum T, and supraphysiologic T fails to increase prostate volume or prostate-specific antigen in healthy men. This apparent paradox is explained by the Saturation Model, which posits a finite capacity of androgen to stimulate PCa growth. Modern studies indicate no increased risk of PCa among men with serum T in the therapeutic range.

    PMID: 21621078 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2...?dopt=Abstract

    BTW, Dr. Abraham Morgentaler is a renowned TRT Physician and on the cutting edge.
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    they are actually finding evidence that high estrogen will increase prostate cancer in men not test

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    Quote Originally Posted by warchild View Post
    they are actually finding evidence that high estrogen will increase prostate cancer in men not test
    Precisely! They're still teaching this shit in Med School if you can believe that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Prostate cancer and Test is old school. More modern research studies have debunked this theory. Think about it for a minute; why do older men with low T and high E2 levels are higher risk of prostate cancer but 20 year olds with high T and low E2 levels at extremely low risk of prostate cancer???

    Send the link below to your Doctors.

    Testosterone and prostate cancer: what are the risks for middle-aged men?

    Urol Clin North Am. 2011 May;38(2):119-24

    Authors: Morgentaler A

    With increased recognition of the benefits of testosterone (T) therapy for middle-aged men, there has been a concomitant reexamination of the historical fear that raising T will result in more prostate cancer (PCa). Studies have failed to show increased risk of PCa in men with higher serum T, and supraphysiologic T fails to increase prostate volume or prostate-specific antigen in healthy men. This apparent paradox is explained by the Saturation Model, which posits a finite capacity of androgen to stimulate PCa growth. Modern studies indicate no increased risk of PCa among men with serum T in the therapeutic range.

    PMID: 21621078 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2...?dopt=Abstract

    BTW, Dr. Abraham Morgentaler is a renowned TRT Physician and on the cutting edge.
    Great information GD! Thanks! BTW, my PSA was at .5 and the last one was at .6 or .7 after TRT, so yes its expected to up slightly!

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    Ditto. Mine went from .5 to .6 and has stayed steady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    my PSA has always been .1, and now after a month on HRT it is .3, do you think it will continue to increase or will it stablize? i get yearly checkups and i already take proscar thanks
    Your PSA is nice and low which is excellent however given it rose from 0.1 to 0.3 in just 30 days is reason enough to have it checked at least twice a year. What you don't want is for it to continue to rise throughout treatment. So for instance if it goes from 0.1 at baseline to 1.1 a year later is reason enough to have a biopsy. The good news is about 70% of all biopsies come back with a clean bill of health. Here's a great article to read on T therapy and the health of the prostate: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/...-Cancer_01.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    It's normal to increase slightly under a TRT protocol and it will stabilize. You don't, however, want it to go over 1.

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    If your over 40 a LOW PSA level would be anything under 2.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred40 View Post
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    If your over 40 a LOW PSA level would be anything under 2.0
    The anti-aging standard for your PSA is to stay under 2.5

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    i'm 60 yrs old and mine was always .1, but i read where taking proscar can give a inacurate reading on the psa tests

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