Is Low Testosterone Permanent? What about Infertility?

**New Low** · 10-10-2011, 11:27 PM

Hello, I am 22 and recently my bloodwork showed a Testosterone level of 252. I am hesitant to take my doctor's advice and go immediately on TRT, I plan on seeing an endo first and trying natural ways but what I'm really worried about is is this permanent? Could it be that if I work out and eat right, and go back to eating meat (I'm a vegetarian at the moment and have been one for 7 years) that my T levels could go back to normal? I read that low testosterone could be caused by stress, I went through the most stressful time in my life not that long ago and am still feeling the effects of that situation. Could it be that that caused my Low T?

Also if my T levels are this low and continue to drop, will I become infertile, I am only 22 and really want to have children someday this is really worrying me.

Any opinions welcome.

**zaggahamma** · 10-11-2011, 05:06 AM

good call on getting more opinions/getting a thorough evaluation...

about your fertility..i dont believe it is all relative (test levels and fertility) but going on trt surely can diminish your fertility...

about all the factors that may have caused your lowT, what level(s) are you comparing this recent bloodwork to?

also, do you have symptoms?

imo, these outside factors could cause some change in levels....i have read that dietary cholesterol (red meat, eggs, etc) transform into testosterone in the body but not sure how much percentage wise....

252 is low for 22(low for any one but especially)...where are all your other blood tests?

good luck bro

**steroid.com 1** · 10-11-2011, 06:30 AM

As J stated you need to find out why you are low. At your age there are any number of reasons that are causing this condition. You need to be diagnosed first. Something is wrong...

**New Low** · 10-11-2011, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by jpkman

good call on getting more opinions/getting a thorough evaluation...

about your fertility..i dont believe it is all relative (test levels and fertility) but going on trt surely can diminish your fertility...

about all the factors that may have caused your lowT, what level(s) are you comparing this recent bloodwork to?

also, do you have symptoms?

imo, these outside factors could cause some change in levels....i have read that dietary cholesterol (red meat, eggs, etc) transform into testosterone in the body but not sure how much percentage wise....

252 is low for 22(low for any one but especially)...where are all your other blood tests?

good luck bro

Thanks man,

Do you know if the infertility associated with TRT is permanent? But I'm defintely trying to get to the bottom of this, until I can schedule an endo I've been trying to eat foods that I read are good for testosterone, lots of eggs, been lifting weights, things like that, I've also been taking multi vitamins and am trying to find out if I any shakes out there or something assist in production of testosterone. I've also been eating Clif bars as I read that they have food ingredients in them that help as well. I'm trying anything man I really don't want to gon on TRT. And I really want to be a dad some day, a friend of mine just found out he's going to be a dad, I just kept wondering if that'll ever happen to me you know.

As for symptoms, not really, I mean I'm tired but my job is really demanding and tiring so that could be it, as for all the other symptoms associated with low T no, I don't have any symptoms. I'm not really comparing it to any blood work this was the first time my testosterone was tested.

If you want I can post my bloodwork, you guys all seem to know a lot about this stuff, definately more than I do.

**lvs** · 10-11-2011, 10:27 AM

agree with gdevine, first thing you need to do is find out where the problem is and the endo will run the necessary tests to find that out. you certainly need to rule out the pituitary to make sure there are no tumors. It is likely you will not need TRT therapy and therefore will not have to worry about the side-effects associated.

**New Low** · 10-11-2011, 10:31 AM

Tumor? Isn't the pituitary near my brain? Oh wow....

**lvs** · 10-11-2011, 10:49 AM

did not mean to alarm, these are typically benign growths that are treated with oral medication.

**New Low** · 10-11-2011, 10:51 AM

oh reeally! great! oh wow what a relief thank you!

**bass** · 10-11-2011, 12:42 PM

BTW, there is a way to stay fertile even if you are on TRT. i wouldn't worry too much about it. one of the members here pointed out that Arnold Schwarzenegger even though been on TRT for many years still managed to get his housekeeper pregnant!

**flatscat** · 10-11-2011, 02:30 PM

op, I think you missed what JP said. What are your cholesterol numbers? too low and your t levels WILL be low.

**New Low** · 10-11-2011, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by bass

BTW, there is a way to stay fertile even if you are on TRT. i wouldn't worry too much about it. one of the members here pointed out that Arnold Schwarzenegger even though been on TRT for many years still managed to get his housekeeper pregnant!

Really? Is there anything special that you have to do or is it just luck?

Originally Posted by flatscat

op, I think you missed what JP said. What are your cholesterol numbers? too low and your t levels WILL be low.

You're right I'm sorry I missed that, let me post them, I have scanned them, here they are:

**bass** · 10-12-2011, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by New Low

Really? Is there anything special that you have to do or is it just luck?

hCG !

**bass** · 10-12-2011, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by New Low

Really? Is there anything special that you have to do or is it just luck?

You're right I'm sorry I missed that, let me post them, I have scanned them, here they are:

you need to repost the attachments!

**kelkel** · 10-12-2011, 02:08 PM

Do you have any prior BW's showing a downward progression of your T level? That's kinda what happenned to me and how I discovered that I did have a pituitary tumor with an MRI. I sunk down to a 59 T level. Hopefully, that's not your case and like Ivs said, usually surgery is not needed unless it's large. My pituitary is 6mm and my tumor is 2mm. So it's a microadenoma. Anything over 10mm is a macroadenoma and you'd be more prone to surgery, which is almost always done through the nose (lucky for me as I've got a big one and would expect a discount.) They're not slicing your noggin open that much anymore. Find the root cause before you jump into the TRT world. Your to damn young.

**zaggahamma** · 10-12-2011, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Do you have any prior BW's showing a downward progression of your T level? That's kinda what happenned to me and how I discovered that I did have a pituitary tumor with an MRI. I sunk down to a 59 T level. Hopefully, that's not your case and like Ivs said, usually surgery is not needed unless it's large. My pituitary is 6mm and my tumor is 2mm. So it's a microadenoma. Anything over 10mm is a macroadenoma and you'd be more prone to surgery, which is almost always done through the nose (lucky for me as I've got a big one and would expect a discount.) They're not slicing your noggin open that much anymore. Find the root cause before you jump into the TRT world. Your to damn young.

i find it amazing how you were low T but kept that low body fat kel...

**flatscat** · 10-13-2011, 06:18 AM

Just post the numbers, can't open attachment.

**kelkel** · 10-13-2011, 10:07 AM

I didn't really even know I was a 59 JPK. Only sign was weight loss and I'm always fighting to gain weight. Doc said my lifestyle helped me maintain better than average. Who knows!

**Fetch** · 10-13-2011, 01:20 PM

On a related note: doctors often give HCG to assist in fertility, but it's typically administered throughout TRT. My question is this...
If you are on TRT for a few years, JUST Test, can you then take an HCG regimen and possibly restore fertility? Anyone have any experience with that?

**Fred40** · 10-13-2011, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Fetch

On a related note: doctors often give HCG to assist in fertility, but it's typically administered throughout TRT. My question is this...
If you are on TRT for a few years, JUST Test, can you then take an HCG regimen and possibly restore fertility? Anyone have any experience with that?

Only from what I have read.....but yes, it should work.

**New Low** · 10-14-2011, 11:19 AM

Sorry here are my numbers:

**flatscat** · 10-18-2011, 09:34 AM

oh okay....

type the actual numbers in the reply bro

**Shol'va** · 10-18-2011, 12:30 PM

Sometimes your pituitary gland shuts off. this is usually caused by head trauma. So it quits sending the signal to produce more testosterone to the testicles. But there could be so many factors that that is why a full blood workup is needed for you including an MRI of your brain to rule out a possible non cancerous tumor of the pituitary. Hopefully for you it is something they can correct without you having to go the TRT route. Hang in there.