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    Doc says come off

    My doctor wants me to come off my TRT to see if the changes in me are just placebo. Not happy with this as i dont want to feel crap again (All my bloods came back good with 100mg every 5 days) .

    Looks like my mrs will have to do without sex..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    My doctor wants me to come off my TRT to see if the changes in me are just placebo. Not happy with this as i dont want to feel crap again (All my bloods came back good with 100mg every 5 days) .

    Looks like my mrs will have to do without sex..lol
    You better hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    My doctor wants me to come off my TRT to see if the changes in me are just placebo. Not happy with this as i dont want to feel crap again (All my bloods came back good with 100mg every 5 days) .

    Looks like my mrs will have to do without sex..lol
    what does he think, you're a guinea pig?! what the fvck! is this to satisfy his curiosity? TRT is for life, he should know this, and if you are doing fine then he shouldn't fvck with it! that sucks bro, i hope you can make him change his mind.

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    Its all because they would not script me and i self medicate . Even tho they see the positive change in me . They thought i would fvck my bloods up and it would not help my symptoms . They dont like being proved wrong.

    Maybe i was wrong self medicating ...And i dont do it for BB reasons.

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    you're in England, correct? i understand they not big on HRT there. can you see another doctor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    you're in England, correct? i understand they not big on HRT there. can you see another doctor?
    Yes uk.. Been to 3 different ones in the surgery.. They just give that patronizing smirk ..They put a note on my records not to give me any more blood tests as they dont agree with what im doing.

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    You're not going to actually come off though right? You've been doing so good, I would be real concerned about coming off considering the condition you were in before dude.

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    since you self medicate(not under doctors orders) i dont see the relevancy to what the doctor wants you to do now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    since you self medicate(not under doctors orders) i dont see the relevancy to what the doctor wants you to do now?
    relevancy being that he wont monitor my bloods if i keep on .. so flying blind

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    relevancy being that he wont monitor my bloods if i keep on .. so flying blind
    Ridiculous.

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    Can't you get private labs done over on that side of the pond? Here (US) many are on home TRT we just google private blood work, I just did the same but added "in the UK" and came up with a bunch of hits, so I doubt it will be a problem. Besides once you figure out your bodies reaction to a set dosage and are stabilized there is usually not a lot of change so yearly work should suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Ridiculous.
    x2...so he's refusing medical care..interesting....Hippocratic oath or hypocritical oath...these doctors and their egos

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    While you may not like it, doctors are under no obligation to help anyone play doctor with themselves actually quite the opposite. I can totally understand the doctors refusal, if he knowingly takes part he is helping to facilitate self medication, in the US this would could not only get him suspended or disbarred but could also open him up to a major lawsuit.

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    My Doc also had me come off TRT for 4-6 weeks. My free test levels were above the normal range. I believe the range they used was 4 ng/dl to 25 ng/dl and mine was 35. I am on my 4th week and honestly I don't feel too much different. Maybe I lost a little strength. He wants to keep a daily diary but there is really not that much to report.

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    i guess ordering bloodwork is a crime...geeeeeeeeeeeeeez...

    good thing we can have bloodwork done here WITHOUT a doctors two cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    My doctor wants me to come off my TRT to see if the changes in me are just placebo. Not happy with this as i dont want to feel crap again (All my bloods came back good with 100mg every 5 days) .

    Looks like my mrs will have to do without sex..lol
    I have been off for a little over a month and it really hasn't affected my libido but everyone is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    x2...so he's refusing medical care..interesting....Hippocratic oath or hypocritical oath...these doctors and their egos
    Worse, he's shut down; he is going to crash hard and feel worse than ever.

    Not right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmantheman View Post
    I have been off for a little over a month and it really hasn't affected my libido but everyone is different.
    We're you taking hCG ? How did you restart? Where you totally shut down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    We're you taking hCG? How did you restart? Where you totally shut down?
    I haven't taken anything. My clinic is not prescribing hCG yet but they may start soon. I will go back next week to check my PSA and test levels.

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    If i decide to drop off TRT will a short PCT do ? been on about 14 weeks so its just like a small cycle . 100mg test C every 5-6 days . Did start @ 200mg every 7 days for 4 weeks .

    I was based on low normal T before with the guidelines of UK docs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog1967 View Post
    If i decide to drop off TRT will a short PCT do ? been on about 14 weeks so its just like a small cycle . 100mg test C every 5-6 days . Did start @ 200mg every 7 days for 4 weeks .

    I was based on low normal T before with the guidelines of UK docs.
    yes, post in the PCT section, you should be fine doing PCT.

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    thanks bass

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