1 week in & joint pain

[Indiana J]

Hi guys. Another question for you. This morning I woke up with a throbbing shoulder pain (left) and a right fist that's hard to close all the way. Searching I found 2 conflicting ideas: low e or high e. How would you troubleshoot this? I don't feel like paying 200 for bw. I am 200mg test, 250 hcgx2, and 1mg ai. I injected yesterday and was planning on taking :5 ai today.
Thanks for the input

[flatscat]

not sure high E2 would cause the joint pain - i forget if you had an initial E2 result - if so what was it? any other symptoms of low E2 like lack of morning wood, headache, increased irritability?---- so you take .5 twice a week?

[Indiana J]

My initial e2 was 40 - <39.9 was "normal".
No other low symptoms, mornings are full mass, no headache, still easy going.
Yes, .5 2x week

[Indiana J]

I did work shoulders Sun, didn't feel anything wrong then. The fist thing is really strange. Almost like my hand is swollen.

[flatscat]

doesn't sound like low E2, besides you have not been on long enough for it to have lowered it, and I don't think 1mg would take it too low anyway. this is another reason to start slow and add things one at a time when you first start. you might not need it. give it another week or so and see how it goes. you could lower your dose to .25 eod if you can break it that small. But i don't think it is the adex.

[biggymrat]

I experienced joint pain when my E levels were too high. As soon as I increased my AI it went away.

[JohnnyVegas]

I am on 200mg/week and don't require an AI. I tried it once and a week later I had the pain you are describing. I stopped taking the AI and the pain went away. Future blood work revealed that my E2 stays low even with doses higher than 200mg/week.

Others are saying the opposite, so you will need to either increase or drop the AI and see if it gets better. Whichever you choose, give it enough time to take effect before making another correction.

[JohnnyVegas]

Mysterious double post.

[yannick35]

I am on 200mg/week and don't require an AI. I tried it once and a week later I had the pain you are describing. I stopped taking the AI and the pain went away. Future blood work revealed that my E2 stays low even with doses higher than 200mg/week.

Others are saying the opposite, so you will need to either increase or drop the AI and see if it gets better. Whichever you choose, give it enough time to take effect before making another correction.

This is what i have been told when i asked the pharmacist for an AI as well i am on 200mg per week. I did have the pains you mentioned the first 2 weeks i was on androgel gel, i had this pain for 2 days and it went away.

[Indiana J]

Thanks for all the input. Glad to have this knowledge pool.
Johnnyvegas: that's the confusing part, same symptoms but could go low e or high.
Yannick- did you add an ai or did the pain just disappear?
Biggymratt- thanks for the info. I'm on 1mg for 200 test. Maybe I'll up to 2mg for a week or two.
Flatscat- think I'll try your idea before upping to 2mg

[Indiana J]

BTW, besides for the joint pain I am starting to feel better. Energy is better, not great but better. Waking up w wood or close to it!

[yannick35]

Pain went away by itself i switch to injections also no i dont have an AI

[dfwo]

I also had some noticeable joint pain the first few weeks on Test C injections

[Indiana J]

Dfwo were you on an ai?

[dfwo]

Nope, just the Test C injections. Fortunately, the joint pain just went away on it's own. But it was pretty painful for the first month or so.

[bass]

for me i get joint pains only when e2 goes below 20!

[fit2bOld]

I wouldn't know if my joint pain comes from HRT or 33 years in construction. LOL Glucosamine/chondroitin really helps if not HRT related