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    Unhappy Confused about resultes????

    My testosterone levels are around 7, i have been told that 14 is the max, and 7 is around 50%, i have been having trouble with anemia, muscle spams, fatigue and various pains and hacks in my body. Since i started T enhantate i feel 100% better but not without being very confused.

    The pains are gone, i feel my life has a purpose now, depression is gone, and i feel my body is going to repair itself a lot better.

    The ultimate goal is to get my T level at 14. I have been told. I search the internet for anemia problems, diet is not a problem because i eat meat, the problem was partially resolved when i took iron pills last year but anemia came back has soon has i stopped taking the iron pills. I found that anemia can be caused by low T, but from my blood test not sure if having a T level of 7can cause all theses issues i have been having in the last year.

    My father died from cancer in 2006 and i had my first colonoscopy in 2007, everything was fine i am not passing blood.

    I got a complete inflammation test with specilized xrays and they inject a weird green substance in you so it makes your bone grow, i really don't remember the name of that test, everything came back normal so no cancer.

    HIV: back in 1998 i was really sleeping around, always protected sex, but at one point i had unprotected sex with a stripper and she also was an escort, dumb stupid i know.

    After having remorse i went for the HIV test in 2002 and everything came back negative. If it would have been a false negative after 14 years i guess i would be full blown AIDS by now, i have no rash, i hell i never lost any weight.......

    Back in 2006 after going out with my girlfriend for 1 year and having unprotected sex, she is on the pill she has major issues with menstruation so no problem there, she got an HIV test has well and it came back negative.

    Stressful job and layoff plus burnout. I was working in a crappy company bathfitter, from 2003 until 2008, all theses years i was stressed, i had to be on night calls, the pay was horrible, i almost got into fights with the people i worked with, worst when i tried to get another job i got reject too.

    In 2008 it was too much pressure and i busted and was 6 months on burnout went to a shrink to clear my head but i refused to take the depression pills.

    All that stress and my chronic pain, plus me and my girlfriend almost got seperated, and last but not least crappy bathfitter fired me 2 months after i came back from my burnout.

    Somewhere along the lines there has to be an explaination of what the hell is wrong with me, my blood work is perfect a part from anemia, my white blood cells are fine, i had troubel with my liver in 2008, but that got fixed i have been told, my platel cells are also fine.

    My question is simple can having border line T level cause all that problem, because sine i been put on 200mg per week of T enhantate is feel like a new man.

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    Thanks JD250

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    sounds like you have alot more issues than Low T going on.

    Test is a 'cure all', so yes by having additional test will make you feel much better. But is it the cause of those problems, I highly doubt it.

    Im assuming that a test level of 7 and the highest is 14, that its a level of 700ng/dl which is well in the normal range.

    You should try to find the underlying cause to the problems, It will help your life in the long run.

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    Geeeeeez Yannick, what a rough ride you had! glad you are feeling better now that you are on TRT. have you tried eating liver? there is another part of a cow you can eat to boost you iron, I'll try to find out what it is and get back to you. i am surprised you iron still low! i am assuming you were on test cyp 200 mgs ew then switched to test E 200 mgs ew, right?

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    No i been put on test E right way at 200mg per week. Yes i have eaten liver and tones of meat for that matter also horse meat. I never really ate fruits and veggies so that might be another problem right there not sure.

    Has for anemia the max is 157 and i am at 139 so not anemic but border line, before i was 134 and had all the symptoms, like dark circles under the eyes , really pale complexion, very low energy, and shortness of breath.

    I do not have theses symptoms anymore, and they went away before i started Test E. Has for 7 i have been told that is 50% testosterone and 14 is the highest at 100%.

    The next blood work will be in 3 months. I was really scared about that HIV thing but after 14 years i don't have the symptoms of it, like rash, and thrush in the mouth, weight loss and swollen lymph nodes such, but them again i got the elsia test that came back negative 2 years after my unprotected encounter. Also the test for cancer came back negative. I cut out the energy drinks for my diet because my medical doctor told me that this and too much tea like green tea have tannin in them which block the absorption of the iron by the body.

    I have also read that for the body to absorb the iron you need to have all the vitamins like C and E and copper, and that food is better absorbed then pills.

    I just started to eat fruits and veggies again lets see what it does in the next blood test. What was weird in the last test is that my B12 was twice the value and that my white blood cell where normal.

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    I am not rooting stress either because when i was at my worst in 2008 is when i had my burnout and more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    sounds like you have alot more issues than Low T going on.

    Test is a 'cure all', so yes by having additional test will make you feel much better. But is it the cause of those problems, I highly doubt it.

    Im assuming that a test level of 7 and the highest is 14, that its a level of 700ng/dl which is well in the normal range.

    You should try to find the underlying cause to the problems, It will help your life in the long run.
    After getting all theses test including complete blood test and x rays and more i really don't know where i can go to find another underlying cause. I even got the fibromyalgia test and it was negative for the test they check 18 points on the body and you gotta have pains in 8 or them.

    7 was my number last year, for some odd reason my medical doctor tells me that testosterone test, PSA, E2 take up to 2 months to get when you get them at the public hospital, i did not go private so i guess i am paying the price and have to wait.

    I also feel that cutting out fruits and vegetable is a wrong way to go, i hate tones of meat last year and yeah ate junk food too and sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yannick35 View Post
    No i been put on test E right way at 200mg per week. Yes i have eaten liver and tones of meat for that matter also horse meat. I never really ate fruits and veggies so that might be another problem right there not sure.

    Has for anemia the max is 157 and i am at 139 so not anemic but border line, before i was 134 and had all the symptoms, like dark circles under the eyes , really pale complexion, very low energy, and shortness of breath.

    I do not have theses symptoms anymore, and they went away before i started Test E. Has for 7 i have been told that is 50% testosterone and 14 is the highest at 100%.

    The next blood work will be in 3 months. I was really scared about that HIV thing but after 14 years i don't have the symptoms of it, like rash, and thrush in the mouth, weight loss and swollen lymph nodes such, but them again i got the elsia test that came back negative 2 years after my unprotected encounter. Also the test for cancer came back negative. I cut out the energy drinks for my diet because my medical doctor told me that this and too much tea like green tea have tannin in them which block the absorption of the iron by the body.

    I have also read that for the body to absorb the iron you need to have all the vitamins like C and E and copper, and that food is better absorbed then pills.

    I just started to eat fruits and veggies again lets see what it does in the next blood test. What was weird in the last test is that my B12 was twice the value and that my white blood cell where normal.
    are you injecting B12?

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    Last year i was put on iron pills, along with vitamin B12 1200IU once a day and vitamin D 10000IU once a week pill. I also ate a lot of meat from liver, horse, red meat, and whole eggs. I read that anemia can also be caused by too much iron in the body.

    Since September of this year i have been taken off the B12, my level are more then ok, but i have been instructed to continue the vitamin D for 6 months, also to drop the iron pills, and to switch to a more conventional diet.

    There is of course the problem of inactivity, being sedentary for so long, with chronic pain there is so much you can do, so at some point the body gets weak i guess. Whenever i used to start a good cardio program within weeks my energy came back true the roof, but that was 10 years ago, this is why when i finish my treatments i am looking forward to starting a serious training regiment, also hitting the sauna few times a week for cleansing.

    I have change my diet dramatically, cutting out all process and sugar foods, eating fruits and veggies broccoli, mixed berries, and some fruits juice with spiruline powder, unpasteurized raw honey, oat meal, black strap molasses, whole eggs, horse meat, coconut oil , mixed salad, green tea, apple cider vinegar.

    Low carb diet is simply not for me, in ketosis i have no energy i feel terrible.

    I will also slowly start cutting out the pills i am taking, like glucosamine, multi vitamins, and the reste of the supplements, a part from a whey isolate and glutamine, and maybe a pre workout booster.

    My medical doctor is 62 years old, he never takes any pills, he eats lots of fruits and veggies, is a big fan of raw honey and natural juice, he is very slim for is age and still practice many sports, he also uses androgel .
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