Holy $h!t just got my BW back, Please advise

[#1stunna]

Last BW was in mid aug. Test 1297 E2 19. was having low libido, erections problems and fatigue. Got off the blocker and have been trying to get my E2 back up around 40-50 where I am optimal. I have still been having very low libido and anxiety. I thought my body was just converting my estro very slowly. I had BW from labcorp done friday and just got results

CBC with differential/platelet test were all within labcorp reference ranges.

Testosterone 2918ng/dl 348-1197

Estradial 207.7pg/ml 06-42.6

I think we have a problem Houston!

Obvioulsy I need to get me estrogen down , please advise on dosage?
I have .25mg anastrozole

During the past 4 months when obviously my E2 skyrocketed I never felt a sweet spot. Can it spike that fast where you never feel the sweet spot?

All of this started when my dr decreased my test dose from 250mg test cyp a week to 125 test cyp a week but did not decrease my AI dose .25mg eod. After 2 months my E2 got down to 15 and thats when all the negative sides kicked in.

[bass]

on what protocol this BW results is based on? hell yea we got a problem! your e2 will shoot up really fast at these levels bro. correct your e2 range, i think there is a typo. BTW thats not a sensitive assay e2, however that is still a scary number. we need to know what your current protocol is so we can recommend AI dose.

[#1stunna]

The protocol was 500mg of test E for this BW with no AI. I was just about to start a test/tren cycle and wanting to get my E2 up which I thought was still low. Thus the BW to find out for sure. I will be decreasing my test dosage to 250 test e week.

I know this might be a dumb question but here goes. Should I wait until I get me E2 levels right before starting the tren E cycle? Since tren does not convert into estro would it even interfere?

[bigboy67]

The protocol was 500mg of test E for this BW with no AI. I was just about to start a test/tren cycle and wanting to get my E2 up which I thought was still low. Thus the BW to find out for sure. I will be decreasing my test dosage to 250 test e week.

I know this might be a dumb question but here goes. Should I wait until I get me E2 levels right before starting the tren E cycle? Since tren does not convert into estro would it even interfere?

all around things arent right here. Are you saying you run 500mg Test E a week?? for TRT? That is a HUGGGGGEEEE dose, haha.

and combine that with no AI.... crazy talk. getting your dose down and obtaining a balance with Test levels and E2 should be your first priority. Once you have an idea where you get a good balance, you can think about that blast. I just wouldnt do it before then personally

[bigboy67]

Tren feels amazing btw. problem is when you are blasting, all that extra oomph may actually hurt you by masking a serious high estrogen issue.

[bass]

wait, are you on TRT or just cycling? this is a TRT section so when people post here we automatically assume they are talking TRT!

[#1stunna]

wait, are you on TRT or just cycling? this is a TRT section so when people post here we automatically assume they are talking TRT!

Yes I am on TRT but I do cycle. I started cycling a high dose of test to get try and get my estrogen back up and when I did I was going to add the tren .

[#1stunna]

all around things arent right here. Are you saying you run 500mg Test E a week?? for TRT? That is a HUGGGGGEEEE dose, haha.

and combine that with no AI.... crazy talk. getting your dose down and obtaining a balance with Test levels and E2 should be your first priority. Once you have an idea where you get a good balance, you can think about that blast. I just wouldnt do it before then personally

I had the best balance at 250 mg of test a week and .25mg AI eod.

So should I just stick with that starting now?
When should I re test BW?
How long do you think it will take for my E2 to come down to the 50 range?
Highest I have ever tested was 82 and never had any libido or sexual problems at that number.

[bigboy67]

I have had the best balance at 250 mg of test a week and .25mg AI eod.

So should I just stick with that starting now?
When should I re test BW?
How long do you think it will take for my E2 to come down to the 50 range?
Highest I have ever tested was 82 and never had any libido or sexual problems at that number.

You felt good, but did you get your bloods drawn with that setup? It always feels good having huge load of Testosterone going through your veins, problem is it isn't likely all that healthy for you to rock a 1600-2900 Testosterone level. If we are talking about TRT dosing, I would say you should go down to 100mg a week, split into two 50mg doses 3.5 days apart, with .25mg AI on the days of the shots. Run that for 6 weeks, see how you feel, have bloods done... Then adjust from there.

I had E2 in the >140 range, took 1mg ED for 5 days, and it squashed the Estrogen rebellion, haha. Sounds like you are just one of those guys that converts estro really easily, which sucks, but easily manageable. Me on the other hand, i took 1.5mg a week AI and had an E2 level of ZERO at one point, so we are all different. Thats why its really important you get a nice little balance going first, THEN do the blast, that way you know exactly where you should go down to afterwards, otherwise you are always going to be chasing this around and never nailing it down

[bass]

Yes I am on TRT but I do cycle. I started cycling a high dose of test to get try and get my estrogen back up and when I did I was going to add the tren.

Ahhh, got it!

[#1stunna]

You felt good, but did you get your bloods drawn with that setup? It always feels good having huge load of Testosterone going through your veins, problem is it isn't likely all that healthy for you to rock a 1600-2900 Testosterone level. If we are talking about TRT dosing, I would say you should go down to 100mg a week, split into two 50mg doses 3.5 days apart, with .25mg AI on the days of the shots. Run that for 6 weeks, see how you feel, have bloods done... Then adjust from there.

I had E2 in the >140 range, took 1mg ED for 5 days, and it squashed the Estrogen rebellion, haha. Sounds like you are just one of those guys that converts estro really easily, which sucks, but easily manageable. Me on the other hand, i took 1.5mg a week AI and had an E2 level of ZERO at one point, so we are all different. Thats why its really important you get a nice little balance going first, THEN do the blast, that way you know exactly where you should go down to afterwards, otherwise you are always going to be chasing this around and never nailing it down

Yes I did BW when I felt my best
test 1296
E2 52


I would like to hear some opinions on doseage? Should I start off at .25mg twice a week or .25mg eod? Maybe I should run it for .25 eod for 2 weeks then back it off? E2 at 207 is kinda scary to I want my libido back.

[bigboy67]

a 1300 is still pretty high, maybe backing down to 200 EW Test, and running .25mg AI 2x per week

But for now, I would run 1mg AI for 5-7 days and smash that E2 down to a reasonable level.

When you back down your dose it will drop your E2 conversion as well. Also, splitting doses of Test into smaller shots given more often will also help lower the E2 conversion rate. some guys have switched to subq over IM Testosterone injections as well and have found that it takes less Test to maintain the same levels, and it converts less to E2 (no personal experience here though)

[bigboy67]

The T to E2 ratio has way more to do with how "good" or "bad" you feel too, more so than Total T or Total E

[Lifted1]

no solid advise here, but damn man you got some serious t going on lol