Anyone adding Deca, Proviron, or Anavar etc to TRT?

**jasondd1** · 05-12-2014, 01:47 PM

Just curious. Ive heard of people adding in different things and was curious what the results have been.

**Black** · 05-12-2014, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by jasondd1

Just curious. Ive heard of people adding in different things and was curious what the results have been.

Lots of factors will determine the results of the compounds added. Most of the time, compounds are added in a manner that will resemble an actual steroid cycle.

**j2048b** · 05-12-2014, 03:28 PM

Ive tried both var and proviron , both killed my cholesterol, and my cholesterol is horrible without var and proviron.... Var gave me strength, provi, did not really notice much at all... But thats my experience... No 2 people will have the same results... Ive also been scripted deca , but have not added it yet...

**kelkel** · 05-12-2014, 03:53 PM

There's a longer thread on Deca as part of a TRT protocol. Search it up.

**Misterj36** · 05-15-2014, 03:35 PM

used 50mg of var per day for 8 weeks. Works great.. Also use 200mg of Test cyp as part of my TRT.. Sex is off the charts..

**Spartans09** · 05-15-2014, 09:28 PM

I've used var several times and also just raised my test up to 400-500mg a week for 12-14 weeks.
I love var great strength gains, hardening and vascularity. However, it destroys cholesterol almost immediately and put my liver values out of normal range within 2 weeks at 40 mg and even higher after 4 weeks-not good. it is not as remotely mild as many suggest. I probably will not use it again.

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 05-16-2014, 12:09 PM

I eat clean and have slightly low good cholesterol and slightly high bad cholesterol could this be an opition for TRT proticall in say 25 mg dose of Var daily to balance cholesterol ?

Anyone got any thoughts or experience on long term use ?

**Times Roman** · 05-16-2014, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by jasondd1

Just curious. Ive heard of people adding in different things and was curious what the results have been.

Many do.

The result will be the same thing as an "only" cycle (a cycle ran without test) but with sufficient test thrown in to avoid the sides of not having test.

**jasondd1** · 05-16-2014, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper

I eat clean and have slightly low good cholesterol and slightly high bad cholesterol could this be an opition for TRT proticall in say 25 mg dose of Var daily to balance cholesterol ?

Anyone got any thoughts or experience on long term use ?

I'm curious too my good and bad cholesterol are crazy low and my doc wants my good up but Ive been struggling. Adding in more fat and switched to whey concentrate instead of isolate. Curious if var would actually help me increase cholesterol?

**kelkel** · 05-16-2014, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Spartans09

I've used var several times and also just raised my test up to 400-500mg a week for 12-14 weeks.
I love var great strength gains, hardening and vascularity. However, it destroys cholesterol almost immediately and put my liver values out of normal range within 2 weeks at 40 mg and even higher after 4 weeks-not good. it is not as remotely mild as many suggest. I probably will not use it again.

Add in NAC for liver support. Also know that simply working out can/will raise your liver values for up to 7-10 days. That said, if you work our religiously your values can always be slightly elevated. To what degree it's a problem is between you and your doc.

**Times Roman** · 05-16-2014, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Add in NAC for liver support. Also know that simply working out can/will raise your liver values for up to 7-10 days. That said, if you work our religiously your values can always be slightly elevated. To what degree it's a problem is between you and your doc.

Kel is correct. And here is the data to back him up:

Muscular exercise can cause highly pathological liver function tests in healthy men

**Spartans09** · 05-16-2014, 04:44 PM

Thanks for the NAC idea KelKel. I will look into it.

**kelkel** · 05-16-2014, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Spartans09

Thanks for the NAC idea KelKel. I will look into it.

Check Austinites Educational Articles Database in the AAS Q & A stickies. Write up is there somewhere.

**kelkel** · 05-16-2014, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

Kel is correct. And here is the data to back him up:

Muscular exercise can cause highly pathological liver function tests in healthy men

I love this line from it:

"It is important to impose relevant restrictions on heavy muscular exercise prior to and during clinical studies."

Even though this study was about exactly that topic.......