Effectiveness of DIM

**The_Crawfish** · 07-29-2014, 07:23 PM

Any input on its effectiveness at controlling E2?? My estradiol is creeping up a little, and I'm about to raise my TRT dosage. Just looking at options if needed, and this is something the doc recommended.

**kelkel** · 07-29-2014, 07:52 PM

Personally I've never used it. That said, it works best when mixed with Zinc and Copper. No doubt not as effective as AI's but worth a try when only mild help is needed.

What is prompting you to raise your dose? How's your Free T?

**The_Crawfish** · 07-29-2014, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

What is prompting you to raise your dose? How's your Free T?

Check this out Kel...thanks

**kelkel** · 07-29-2014, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by The_Crawfish

Check this out Kel...thanks

Check what out?

**The_Crawfish** · 07-29-2014, 07:59 PM

shit...
http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...-protocol.html

**kelkel** · 07-29-2014, 08:05 PM

Yes, I'd be elevating your dose as well. Request a script for Adex to have on hand. Agree with lifted1 on your link.

**The_Crawfish** · 07-29-2014, 08:18 PM

thanks man, will do...not worth it to worry with the DIM??

**64509chvl** · 07-29-2014, 08:38 PM

I've used Zinc & Copper (50mg/2mg)before TRT, but after I pulled blood a few months in on my TRT protocol, my E2 on a sensitive was 39...I wanted to see how I felt with the E2 down a bit so I ran 200mg of DIM for a month with no other changes & my E2 on a sensitive came down to 20!

I pulled blood the exact same time in the AM & the exact same day in relation to my last injection. Made a big diference for me.

**Kozmo** · 07-29-2014, 10:25 PM

The only way dim will help is if you are not getting enough through your diet.
It doesn't work the same as an ai

**64509chvl** · 07-30-2014, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Kozmo

The only way dim will help is if you are not getting enough through your diet.
It doesn't work the same as an ai

I'm sure everyone is effected differently on this. It's still worth a try IMO.

In my case...regardless of diet it helped big time. For atleast the last year & a half I eat no less than 9 oz. of Broccoli daily (snack on it throughout the day). Always have a side of greens with dinner aswell.

**The_Crawfish** · 07-30-2014, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by 64509chvl

I've used Zinc & Copper (50mg/2mg)before TRT, but after I pulled blood a few months in on my TRT protocol, my E2 on a sensitive was 39...I wanted to see how I felt with the E2 down a bit so I ran 200mg of DIM for a month with no other changes & my E2 on a sensitive came down to 20!

I pulled blood the exact same time in the AM & the exact same day in relation to my last injection. Made a big diference for me.

Did u take 100mg 2x/day or just one hit of 200??

**SEOINAGE** · 07-30-2014, 03:02 PM

I tried DIM for a couple days, felt like trash. I'm a hyperexcreter with test, not sure what was going on with the DIM, but it makes you use up your estradiol more readily, assume it really made me dump it burn it up or something. even just 100 two days in a row was too much, not sure if they even make smaller capsules. It can work for some, and no I don't have blood work to back it up, just anecdotal evidence, and not even much at that.

**64509chvl** · 07-30-2014, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by The_Crawfish

Did u take 100mg 2x/day or just one hit of 200??

I took 200 in the morning with the rest of my supps. After I pulled from running it like that for a month, I tried 100 in the morning & 100 at night...made no diference to me.

**64509chvl** · 07-30-2014, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by SEOINAGE

I tried DIM for a couple days, felt like trash. I'm a hyperexcreter with test, not sure what was going on with the DIM, but it makes you use up your estradiol more readily, assume it really made me dump it burn it up or something. even just 100 two days in a row was too much, not sure if they even make smaller capsules. It can work for some, and no I don't have blood work to back it up, just anecdotal evidence, and not even much at that.

Just out of curiosity...what was your E2 at before you tried the DIM?

**SEOINAGE** · 07-30-2014, 11:24 PM

I can't remember, think that time was upper 30s or max 42, but I've come to find out I like it mid 30s, even better than the 20s. Taken anastrozole and brought it down to low 20s, but it always continues to drop after that.

**yettibecsuse** · 07-31-2014, 12:47 AM

Im taking 300 a day in one go while on trt; I have feel great; I have been getting bloods every to weeks; the first test my e2 did drop but I was in between shots of Reandron shots so it wasn't accurate, I am going to test again after two three tests I should get an accurate picture of the effectiveness of dim; I have read studies in regards to its effectiveness on patients with cancer and women with breast cancer etc; I believe the theory behind it is concentrate and it is impossible to eat thr equivalent

**64509chvl** · 07-31-2014, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by SEOINAGE

I can't remember, think that time was upper 30s or max 42, but I've come to find out I like it mid 30s, even better than the 20s. Taken anastrozole and brought it down to low 20s, but it always continues to drop after that.

Interesting...so the DIM getting your E2 made you feel crappy, but Anastrozole brings it down too much & you don't feel as bad as when using DIM?! Was that high 30's/low 40's with no AI at all? That seems so close to where you said you feel best in the mid 30's.