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    a couple questions about lr3, insulin, etc.

    I have a couple questions about lr3, insulin , etc.

    1.) Should I take both my insulin and lr3 in the AM and PWO, or just PWO (or something else)? i.e. 10 iu insulin/25 mcg lr3 in the AM, and the same PWO, or just stick to 10 iu insulin/50 mcg lr3 PWO.

    2.) Can I just mix my insulin, lr3, and hCG in an insulin pin and shoot them all at the same time. Will an insulin pin even really be long enough to shoot IM? (And yes, that is hCG, which I plan to run at 250iu qd or qod).

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    Be sure you've read up everything you can on using insulin , but yes, you can combine the two for an IM injection. Since they're both water-based (BA is close enough), the depth of the injection isn't crucial so long as it's in the muscle.
    Don't use HCG ED.......that's just overkill. EOD is even too often. Unless you're doing a porno shoot during your cycle, there's no reason to use HCG early on or even in the middle....incorporate in in the latter 1/3 of your cycle......5 weeks should be plenty for anyone at 500IU E4D. Time it so you stop it 48hrs before you begin clomid. Using HCG ED and early in your cycle is like starting your car every morning when you're only going somewhere on Saturday....unnecessary stress.


    Stick to just pwo for the slin and LR3 if it's your first time

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    SWALE's hcg protocol calls for 250-500 iu twice a week, and he's even mentioned going as high as 250 iu qd. I figured he probably had a lot of experience with this, considering he makes his living as a HRT doctor, so I thought I'd give it a try. Until now, I've always used the traditional 500-1000 iu/day of hcg at the end of my cycle, but it never really did anything for me. After my most recent cycle, though, apparently my body is having a hard time recovering because I'm 7 weeks out and my balls are still atrophied and I have to use cialis in order to reliably get it up. I decided to try something else (extreme though it may sound) to avoid this, as it nearly destroyed my relationship. I know you know your ****, though, einy, so I guess I still have some decisions to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bal
    SWALE's hcg protocol calls for 250-500 iu twice a week, and he's even mentioned going as high as 250 iu qd. I figured he probably had a lot of experience with this, considering he makes his living as a HRT doctor, so I thought I'd give it a try. Until now, I've always used the traditional 500-1000 iu/day of hcg at the end of my cycle, but it never really did anything for me. After my most recent cycle, though, apparently my body is having a hard time recovering because I'm 7 weeks out and my balls are still atrophied and I have to use cialis in order to reliably get it up. I decided to try something else (extreme though it may sound) to avoid this, as it nearly destroyed my relationship. I know you know your ****, though, einy, so I guess I still have some decisions to make.

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    Swale's a good guy and does know his stuff, but ED is too much. people have had success shooting as often as he recommends, but that doesn't mean that you won't get the same results shooting much less frequently too. A homerun is a homerun whether it goes 550' or just clears the wall. Repeated exposure to an LH agonist like HCG can give rise to potential LH desensitivity. i can get away fine with about 4 weeks of 500IU E4D towards the end of a 20+ week cycle. testicular size is regained fully.

    Are you saying that you've waited until the very end of a cycle and then shot 1000IU/day for.....how long? IMO, this is one of those things where just enough is perfect, and anything above that can be detrimental.

    another option is 500IU 2x/wk E3wk during your cycle.

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