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    Does Novaledex kill HGH???? Einstein...Help!!!

    I spoke to one of those anti aging sales people today pushing HGH and testosterone replacement therapy. He said that novaladex will kill the HGH and to take teslac or anastrol. I am not sure if I am spelling those right. Does anyone know anything about this.

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    Novla simple binds with estrogen receptors, so that estrogen can bind. It basiclly fills a hole in your body so that estrogen doesn't get in a do harm i.e. gyno. It shouldn't effect HGH which is a hormone and has no need to bind with estrogen receptors.
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    nolva lowers igf 1 sensetivty ,tahst what gh turns into so yes it does hurt gains a little bit ,

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    what do you use for an anti estrogen then.
    Thanks for your help.

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    I do not believe you need pct for HGHi. 5yrs ago I had a Rx by a world well known specialist in LA. He never told me about any pct. Quanities are low so there is no burst of aromatizing agents. But I could be mistaken

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    When i saw this thread i got a little worried because im going to be hitting IGF soon..... so i asked about it and this is what i got "10mg's wont hinder gains"

    Assuming your not taking 80mg's nolva to combat gyno - i would think you should be fine.
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    thanks guys, this guy got me a litle nervous.

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    Nolva lowers systemic (hepatically-derived) IGF-1. What contributes to muscle growth is IGF-1Ea, which is expressed solely in skeletal muscle. GH binds GH receptors on skeletal muscle and causes upregulation of IGF-1Ea.

    In other words, don't worry about the nolva.....it won't affect your gains.

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    Thanks Einstein, and a big thank you for the last sentence summing it up because I was screwed if I had to figure out the 1st two sentences.

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    no need for pct bro for gh.has nothing to do with hpta

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    thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjohnr
    I spoke to one of those anti aging sales people today pushing HGH and testosterone replacement therapy. He said that novaladex will kill the HGH and to take teslac or anastrol. I am not sure if I am spelling those right. Does anyone know anything about this.
    I understand Nolva only works on breast tissue estrogen receptors and doesnt work so well at blocking estrogen in your testicles... in otherwords, if nolva is your only anti-e, you may experience MORE testicular shrinkage and/or damage to the testicles using nolvadex then using other anti-e's such as liquidex. Clomid is more effective at blocking estrogen in the testicles which is why it does a much better job in PCT at restarting your balls then a nolva only PCT.

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    Thanks...Ntpadude, where do you get liquidex. IbE has a liguid dex, I guess that is it. Do you mix it or is it mixed and do you drink it or inject it. I am on a pretty long cycle and my balls are in need.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjohnr View Post
    thanks guys, this guy got me a litle nervous.
    me too!

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