Thread: GH + food = good
07-21-2004, 04:17 PM #1
GH + food = good
This study shows that even with suboptimal caloric intake, nitrogen balance is still favorable while using GH....it has a muscle sparing effect.....with better nutrition, the effects are magnified
Ann Surg. 1988 Jul;208(1):6-16. Related Articles, Links
Metabolic effects of recombinant human growth hormone in patients receiving parenteral nutrition.
Ziegler TR, Young LS, Manson JM, Wilmore DW.
Department of Surgery, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts.
Recombinant human methionyl growth hormone (Protropin) (Genetech, Inc., San Francisco, CA) administered to normal volunteers receiving hypocaloric parenteral nutrition minimized weight loss and induced positive nitrogen balance. To evaluate whether growth hormone (GH) can promote anabolism in surgical patients, 11 stable malnourished individuals were studied. In the initial trial, subjects received a constant parenteral infusion of a hypocaloric diet that provided approximately 1100 kcal/24 hr and 1.3 g protein/kg/24 hr for at least 2 weeks. During 1 week, GH 10 mg was given subcutaneously daily, whereas the other week served as the control. Daily balance studies demonstrated that administration of GH resulted in significant retention of nitrogen (+3.4 g/24 h) and phosphorus (+218 mg/24 h), despite provision of only 60% of caloric requirements. With GH, serum blood urea nitrogen (BUN) and potassium fell, whereas glucose and insulin tended to rise, and levels of insulin-like growth factor 1 increased three to fourfold. Weight gain occurred with GH and was associated with positive mineral and water balance. Six patients received GH (10 mg subcutaneously daily) for 13-25 consecutive days after an initial control week. Significant nitrogen and phosphorus retention occurred over the entire period of GH administration, and no significant side effects were observed. In these depleted patients, GH caused significant and sustained nitrogen retention over a wide range of nutritional support. GH appears to enhance the efficacy of parenteral nutrition in stable individuals requiring repletion of body protein.
07-21-2004, 04:28 PM #2
07-21-2004, 04:44 PM #3
Wowser!!!Originally Posted by einstein1905
07-21-2004, 05:33 PM #4Originally Posted by jbigdog69
07-21-2004, 07:03 PM #5Junior Member
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re high doses
Are there any actual studies based on the low doses often used (2 - 4 iu ed) that show clinical benefits? The doses on most of the studies are astronomical and even the reccomened usage on the mfg websites is high. I do understand these are for children producing none generally but still...............
07-21-2004, 07:13 PM #6Originally Posted by zaarel
This was a six month study that ended March 1st. 202 people particapated taking 2 iu's a day.
HGH Research and Information to Strength, Exercise, & Body Fat
showed an 88% increase in muscle strength
showed an 81% increase in muscle size
showed an 72% improvement in body fat loss
showed an 81% improvement in exercise tolerance
showed an 83% improvement in exercise endurance
HGH Research and Information to Skin & Hair
showed a 71% improvement in skin texture
showed a 68% improvement in skin thickness
showed a 71% improvement in skin elasticity
showed a 51% improvement on wrinkle disappearance
showed a 38% improvement towards new hair growth
HGH Research and Information on Healing, Flexibilty, & Resistance
showed a 55% improvement of healing old injuries
showed a 61% improvement of healing other injuries
showed a 71% improvement on healing capacity
showed a 53% improvement on back flexibility
showed a 73% improvement on resistance to common illness
HGH Research and Information on Sexual Function
showed a 75% improvement in sexual potency / frequency
showed a 62% improvement in the duration of penile erection
showed a 57% improvement on frequency of nighttime urination
showed a 58% improvement on hot flashes
showed a 38% improvement on menstrual cycle regulation
HGH Research and Information on Energy, Emotions, &Memory
showed a 84% improvement in energy levels
showed a 67% improvement on emotional stabiltiy
showed a 78% improvement on attitude towards life
showed a 62% improvement in memory
HGH Human Growth Homone research
and information study by:
L Cass Terry, M.D., Ph.D. and Edmund Chein, M.D
Medical College of Wisconsin and Palm Springs
Life Extension Institute
07-21-2004, 07:27 PM #7Junior Member
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Now thats some amazing ****!!!!! How do they quantify an 81% increase in muscle size? Isnt that virtually double? What was the average age of the participants? I would love to read more on that study. Einstein you are just a veritable wealth of information and I for one appreciate your taking the time to share it.
07-21-2004, 07:29 PM #8Originally Posted by zaarel
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Cool, great info..........was there an age range on the participants
07-21-2004, 08:40 PM #10
WOW!!!!!Originally Posted by einstein1905
07-21-2004, 10:43 PM #11
Um, are you sure it wasnt 81% REPORTED increase in muscle size? I mean, how did they measure a "67% improvement in emotional stability" and "a 78% improvement in attitude toward life"? I can find the info on sites selling HGH precursors and stuff (one of which says it involved 200 men over 60), but not the actual study.
07-21-2004, 11:05 PM #12Originally Posted by johnsomebody
I put next to no faith in subjective tests like that...emotional stability or attitude towards life That's immeasurable IMO. it's like saying "how much do you love someone"....everyone's answer is relative to their own scale....it means nothing and is completely subjective. measuring cross-sectional area od muscle is pretty concrete.
07-22-2004, 06:57 AM #13
great info. I am using 2 IU's a day and get swollen hands and feet if going above that. Is anyone using more than 2 IU's successfully and did you work up gradually? Also are there any benefits that going above 2 IU's will bring?
07-24-2004, 04:47 PM #14Originally Posted by johnsomebody
07-26-2004, 01:28 AM #15
how old were they?
07-28-2004, 05:04 AM #16Junior Member
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Bumping this one up again. I would love to know the age range of the group. It would also be nice to see the percentages on the side effects experienced. Any info on those Einstein?
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