Thread: Intra-articular HGH
11-05-2004, 07:59 PM #1
I've been injecting my HGH (1.2IUs) intra-articularly for the last 2 months (knees) and have found a very interesting side-effect. The dose is low because it's primarily a replacement dose (anti-aging). But even at that dose the best my IGF-1 levels I would get would be in the 180-220 range.
Since starting the intra-articular injections my IGF-1 has been 380 and 435 respectively (tested every 4 weeks), all on the same 1.2IUs. What's different? Well, for one, the injection site. Not subQ but deep into the knee (25G1.5). Second, in addition to the 1.2IUs I also add another 4IUs of Bacterostatic water into the syringe and inject the whole thing. One constant is the HGH is always SAIZEN.
My doctor and I have a couple of ideas on the whys of this but I'm not sure. First, due to the extra dillution or even because of the injection into the knee capsule, perhaps there is a slower release into the system causing a more prolonged stimulation of IGF-1, or, because prolotherapy is known to stimulate growth factors, that might be what is going on.
Has anyone experienced anything like this? I know it's WAY out there but... What I would LOVE to discover is that it's the dilution. That would mean TONS for everyone out there using HGH. But I just can't imagine that is it.
Thanks in advance.
11-05-2004, 08:40 PM #2
Im curious as well about the dillution, as I have been using 2ccs of BW in a 10iu vial of Jintropin instead of 1.
11-06-2004, 01:52 AM #3
Hey Scotty, why do u inject articularly in the knee, do u have knee problems?
I've been suffering from cartilage usage on the inner part of my left knee cap for 8 years now. Is it suppose to help injuries?
11-06-2004, 11:04 AM #4
Dayum a 1.5 inch needle in my knee doesn't sound like something I'd want to do
11-06-2004, 11:35 AM #5
im sitting here feeling my knee and cant find one spot that i could stick without hitting bone or tendon
11-06-2004, 02:30 PM #6
OMG bro,,, Why???
11-06-2004, 02:34 PM #7Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
11-06-2004, 04:51 PM #8Originally Posted by IGOTJUICE007
Let us know.
11-06-2004, 04:54 PM #9
What differences have you felt in your knee since doing these injections? I'm curious because I've long suffered from elbow, shoulder tendonitis (baseball player). I'm on my 6th week of jino and wondering what benefits I might be able to get from similar type injections.
11-06-2004, 05:04 PM #10Originally Posted by Jessyjack10
For your issue (under knee cap) there are a few things you can do. usually that is caused by a mis-allignment of the patella over the grove it's supose to track over. I had the same issue and corrected by training my VMO (lower/inner quad) to track the knee back inside. I woudl think it's you already track too much inside you woudl train the outter part of your quads. Also, my ortho, when inside for some cartilidge trimming, drilled some small holes under the pattella to timulate blood flow. Most painful thing I have ever been trough (from a recover standpoint) but, sure did the trick. Prolotherapy utilized a simular concept. Increase blood flow to an area that normally has poor blood flow.
For your patella, it's "posible" that injectting under the patella might work but, I will not recomend anyone to self treat themselves. I will make my own judgements for myself but, in those instances I pay the price if I screw myself up.
Hope that helps.
11-06-2004, 05:08 PM #11Originally Posted by JohnnyB
From a pain point of view, no big deal. Once you push through the meso layer it's actually less painfull, for me, than an IM injection. Certainly some pain if you want to go pokng around to shoot the various ligiments and such but, I'm not really into that. I just aim to inject into the cartilige.
11-06-2004, 05:12 PM #12
Lol, you're one brave dude. All I think about is how that doc nearly killed me
My knee cap has already been moved by a surgery procedure to place it in a better track.
If u have a web site with more info , it would be highly appriciated. Thanks
Last edited by Jessyjack10; 11-06-2004 at 05:15 PM.
11-06-2004, 05:43 PM #13Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
I have added some images here.
11-06-2004, 05:46 PM #14Originally Posted by Jdawg50
11-06-2004, 05:54 PM #15Originally Posted by asimov
Hope this helps.
11-06-2004, 05:58 PM #16Originally Posted by Jessyjack10
11-10-2004, 01:29 AM #17
Thanks, I'll check it out.
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