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    More IGF = More Gains?

    Fellas,

    I planned on taking 70-80mcgs of IGF ED until I read this post by Dave Palumbo which said......"10-15mcg ed is all that is needed any more then that and the extra goes to the extremities re:numbness in hands and feet." Is this true? Does anyone agree w/ this?


    Has anyone here had good gains say using 40mcgs, then decided to bump it up to 70mcgs ofr the next cycle and had even better gains?

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    I would say that 70 - 80mcg is a fairly high dose. People usually start on about 20 - 30mcg, and are happy to stay on about 40mcg. However, I don't know about the 10 - 15mcg theory by Dave P. From what I know, the lowest dose I would use is 20mcg.

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    Just remembering that over 120mcg daily is a waste. I would never use it under
    40mcg daily.

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    Dave Plumbo is in prison for sell fake HGH, that ought to tell you how trust worthy he is, start with 40mcg

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    I have been reading around a few other forums, seems to me that most advocate using 80-100mcg if you are using media grade LR3... and just about everyone is using media. I think I am going to creat a thread dicussing the two... we dont have one over here that is of worth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
    I have been reading around a few other forums, seems to me that most advocate using 80-100mcg if you are using media grade LR3... and just about everyone is using media. I think I am going to creat a thread dicussing the two... we dont have one over here that is of worth...

    Thanks for all the replies!

    Mr. Sparkle,

    When you said your going to start a thread discussing the two I assume you mean the differnce between receptor grade IGF and media grade IGF...correct? If this is so have you used both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownBomber
    Thanks for all the replies!

    Mr. Sparkle,

    When you said your going to start a thread discussing the two I assume you mean the differnce between receptor grade IGF and media grade IGF...correct? If this is so have you used both?

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    No I have not used both media only.... receptor is expensive... also from what I have been reading 30-50mcg of receptor gets about the same results as 80-120 of media... But still they were saying that receptor is better.... I am reading around and seeing what I can find, and report back

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    can some one post any sides theyve seen?

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    Lethargy and sleepiness for me.

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    wow...thats all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seajackal
    Lethargy and sleepiness for me.
    Did you keep your carbs up? and was the lethargy in the morning? If so did you have some carbs before bedtime?

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    I've been carbing every since I've got the lethargy feelings, I only couldn't
    manage to get carbed all the time when I was doing my job. By the middle of
    the night I used to wake up and get some chocolate to recover that feeling
    that really sucks. I was lucky for not feeling joint pain I guess it was because
    I was on Deca so I haven't felt that much in my joints.

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    Ever peepee on some ketostix?

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    No,bro that's just to recover from that fukking feeling, that's all.
    Here in Japan I don't have access to the stix, as far as I know.

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    They might have them at a pharmacy..... they do here, but I know that doesnt do you any good

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    I'll try to find some, thanks for the shout, bro!

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    The media grade, receptor grade hype is just that hype. I've used 40mcg post w/o for 5 weeks and saw a loss of 10lbs and gained a half inch on my arms.

    So the idea that you have to do 80-100mcg is B.S. It's all part of the hype to sell the so called receptor grade, they also claim it comes from GroPep. GroPep would have no part of distributing LR3 for human use. Beside the fact that receptor grade from GroPep is $6,435.00 for 5mg, how can they sell 5mg for $1000.00?

    JohnnyB

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyB
    The media grade, receptor grade hype is just that hype. I've used 40mcg post w/o for 5 weeks and saw a loss of 10lbs and gained a half inch on my arms.

    So the idea that you have to do 80-100mcg is B.S. It's all part of the hype to sell the so called receptor grade, they also claim it comes from GroPep. GroPep would have no part of distributing LR3 for human use. Beside the fact that receptor grade from GroPep is $6,435.00 for 5mg, how can they sell 5mg for $1000.00?

    JohnnyB
    This is fact I am friends with a comp and they were telling me that recptor grade is rip off because its no dif

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOULchild
    can some one post any sides theyve seen?
    Growth,increased pumps and recovery,skin tightness(could be because of the constant pumps)..i did get headaches and feelings of nausia at times and my appitite was hit or miss,but overall i was pleased with the results

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    ahh ok thanks for the input

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