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currently I am running 4 IU gh with 1000 mg test, 500mg eq week and alternating 4 weeks d-bol50mg with 4 weeks tren 75ED. I am growing but not very dramatic, in september I will start with a 40 week cycle of gh test and a lot of other things, what can I expect if i up the dose to 10 or 16 IU a day
a big skull/stomach and empty wallet.
to look like a caveman...
is 10 IUs really that high??
at around what IU a day do u get sides like that (growth of skull, GH gut, etc)?
I go as high at 10ius a day, but when we're getting into the higher range (15-20) you could see some permenent sides. I'll tell you one thing, my head grew two hat sizes it seems since GH.
You dont want dave palumbos brow ridge do you?
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bro i already have that naturally.. my brother and my dad all have it a little bit..lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bdtr
what can I expect in terms off muscle gain, i will be running 4 IU till end august, in september, I up the dose to 16 IU for 4 months with 1000/1500 mg test, drol, tren and more, At that time, i will be 4 months clean of AAS.
Also will be running slin with 75/100 mcg IGF every other month, after those 4 months I maybe lower the gh to 10, or maybe 4 IU a day, till my next cycle,
But, if the gains @ 16 IU were dramatic I will keep running it @ 16 IU day
...and maybe hands with immovable joints....Quote:
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Let me make sure i understand what you saying before i jump to conclusions...Quote:
Originally Posted by europeman
So you will run the Gh for a period of time at 4iu, then up it to 16 iu for the beginning of the steroid portion of your cycle?
On top of 16 units of GH you'll be running 100mcg igf-1 LR3 every day?
I strongly advise you not to run 16units of GH with 100mcg of igf-1 at the same time, you will more than likely experience permanent side effects!
On my nest one I am going to use 4 iu's of HGH and 40 mcgs. of R3IGF-1. The IGF for 50 days and the HGH as long as I can along with other AAS. AXT do you think that is to much HGH and IGF? Just wondering what everybody else thinks.
I am currently running gh 4iu day, igf 50mcg test 1000 mg, EQ 500 mg, just finished d-bol, now on tren @ 75mg day, over 4 weeks i will switch the tren foor 6 weeks of Var @ 100mg day, then I stop with the AS midway april, still using the gh @ 4 IU and slin every other month, than in Septembre I will begin a giant bulking cycle with 16 IU gh, and 100 mcg IGF-1 every other month with a lot of asQuote:
Originally Posted by angelxterminator
I would not go over 9iu per day. 9iu was a good level for me which produced significant keepable LBM. Split it into two shots am and right after lunch. That away you will still get ur natty HGH release during sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by europeman
If you insist on using the IGF-1 with the growth hormone, i would reduce the dose significantly.Quote:
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How high of a dose have you used for both compounds previously?
The 4iu's your on now?
If experienced, and you know how your body reacts, i would drop the GH dose to 8-10iu per day, along with a lower dose of igf-1, possibly 60-80mcg.
hoped you liked your forehead :eek:
why are u wanting to go so high? ur only doin 4ius now and wanna jump to 16? why not use 8ius and see the results from that? 16ius is ridiculously high and unsafe, especially m ixing it with 100mcgs of igf.
im afraid to ask how much slin ur doin
that s stupid bro. 16iu is crazy...what r your stats? u must be on your way to become mr. o, otherwise this is simply nuts...
The steroids you are doing in your cycle is more then Iw ill do in my lifetime. What are goals?
what is in your opinion better? 16 IU gh or 10 Iu every month with 60/80MCG igf 1 every orher monthQuote:
Originally Posted by angelxterminator
Have runned igf @60 mcg a day
I am using 20IU slin PRE workout, Hum R subQ
and your only 20years old???
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yes, in april I am :lift:
Do you have some pics? This is nutts
Bro, you need to reconsider your doses and 20iu's slin pre workout is very dangerous, your playing russian roulette.Quote:
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Why is it dangerous?? for going Hypo or Diabetice
I would love to see some pics...If you are taking these high dosages and risking so much here I would think you are close to competition to say the least. Any pics?
yep, post some pics. smells like bacon :cuss:
Unless you're VERY lucky, hypoglycemia will hit you like a ton of bricks...if you're alone when it hits and can't get to some form of glucose/dextrose quickly, well it's not very much fun....(and yes, that's speaking from experience)..My cousin's BG dropped on him years ago while he was asleep...he was lucky...he didn't die, he just suffered permanent brain damage.... I really hope your thread is just a friendly joke......Quote:
Originally Posted by europeman
Those doses are a bit too hardcore for me. I really think there is no need to take that much.
-Gear
I now some one who is on a similar cycle, he lost 18 Kg/40Ibs of fat and gained 12/27Ibs kg of muscle in 4 months while cutting.
I will use it while bulking and can only imagine what It will do to me since I dont have that much fat, and going to bulk heavily.
RIght now i'm running 6iu of gh daily, 60mcg igf-1 LR3 1mo on /1 off, 14 iu humalog PWO, t3, on top of a massive dose of test, tren, eq, and anavar!Quote:
Originally Posted by europeman
You should drop the growth hormone dosage drastically as well as the igf-1 dosage. At your at with 16 units of GH you are looking to severely mutate your epiphyseal plates!
You will probably end up with disproportionate growth due to the extremely accelerated rate of proliferation, and a lack of bone density due to insufficient nutrient supply. Back down to 6-8 units, and run the igf if you must.
I am doing so under guidance of an endocrinologist, you obviously are not, as any endo would slap you for thinking of dosing in such a way!
Pics???Quote:
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If your not a Pro BB getting ready for a show then forget about that dosagee....When I talk to few friends who are Pros they only go pass 10ius when getting ready for a competition....after that back down to 4-8ius....
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Originally Posted by angelxterminator
You are in no way ready...be prepared to suffer the consequences maybe not short term but think long term.Quote:
Originally Posted by europeman