For all the young bro's, vets welcome.

[LL08]

I'm turning 21 and wanna hook up a DOC that can assist me with my first GH cycle. Just wondering what you guys suggest I say to a DOC so he actually helps me rather than try to shut my well researched cycle down...

First doc i saw spoke little english - he hooked me up with free epiphyseal study but he looked at me suspiciously. I can't see the family doc cause he is very anti. NEED SOME1 new. any experience?

Wanna do this the smart way - minimize risks.

BTW i live in Australia if this makes a diff.

[Mallet]

I would say to get your nanno's checked with your doc and if they were extremely low then i would say you were a candidate for GH therapy. 21 is fairly young to be using GH for the purpose of growth rather than making up for a burnt out pituitary. At 21 your GH production is still at a reasonable level, i would hold off until your atleast in your thirties, i mean AAS will probably meet your frame size needs right now, once you've reached your frames limit then maybe incorporate GH. just my 2 cents

[Hazard]

Going through a doc is going to be EXPENSIVE..... i can get it from a doc but he wants $10/iu..... no way in hell would i pay that price.....

[co2boi]

Not sure how the Aussie govt is, but HGH is pretty regulated here. Unless your doc does this as a "regular thing", he will probably just shoot you down. Never hurts to ask I guess though.

[LL08]

Yeah I thought that much co2boi. They are very, very tight on it. I just need to get the tests done.

Mallet, I don't want to get big just want the effects of hyperplasia(sp?), lower bf% etc for sport. I do get tested for AAS but I don't for GH, slin, etc. Now anyway. In fact I'd be struggling if I put mich weight on at all. I'm thinking of using slin for recovery and GH for everything else.

What do you mean by nanno's and how would I ask a DOC for this...'

Cheers

[GearIdentity]

Maybe you should look into Igf-1 instead. Seems more reasonable for your goals and age, I think you'll be happier with results.

[Mallet]

A doc won't likely prescribe you HGH if your Nanno's (a measure of igf-1 in the blood stream) is in the normal range. I can think of better fat burners for alot less if your just interested in losing some BF...I find taking GH without any kind of an androgen or anti-catabolic agent lessens the effects dramatically...how often will you be tested, it would be wise if you could add some fast acting AAS like prop, anavar , etc... to enhance the effects of the GH. If you simply can't do this then I would go subQ with the GH in the area's where you need to lose the most fat, and save the slin for PWO and go IM.

Yeah I thought that much co2boi. They are very, very tight on it. I just need to get the tests done.

Mallet, I don't want to get big just want the effects of hyperplasia(sp?), lower bf% etc for sport. I do get tested for AAS but I don't for GH, slin, etc. Now anyway. In fact I'd be struggling if I put mich weight on at all. I'm thinking of using slin for recovery and GH for everything else.

What do you mean by nanno's and how would I ask a DOC for this...'

Cheers

[LL08]

Mallet - Cheers on your post. I have a 9 month gap in which I won't be tested for anything - 6 month if i am very unlucky. I could do some oral AAS i'd say with GH oral igf-1 and insulin PWO ? Even T3 is said to have good effects re: aerobic fitness which would be handy for me...

Does that sound like the best thing to do?

What blood tests would i request. What is relevant to this cycle?