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Thread: IGFLR3 - Sub-q or IM?
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05-10-2005, 02:46 PM #1
IGFLR3 - Sub-q or IM?
What do you guys prefer for your IGF injections. An explanation and some scientific evidence on what you feel is better would be great too.
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05-10-2005, 04:09 PM #2Member
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I always go IM. The highest concentration of IGF receptors are in muscle tissue. IGF1 receptors are also upregulated in muscle tissue in response to reistance training, so IM pwo is the only way to go IMO.
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05-10-2005, 04:11 PM #3Originally Posted by j martini
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05-10-2005, 04:16 PM #4Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by KINGKONG
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05-10-2005, 04:18 PM #5Member
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Originally Posted by bluethunder
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05-10-2005, 04:46 PM #6Originally Posted by bluethunder
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05-10-2005, 05:18 PM #7Associate Member
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i went numb all over my belly/chest from the ba content of the igf. very large area, and it was growing for about 2 months, and didnt fully go away for 4 months after it began
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05-10-2005, 05:32 PM #8Associate Member
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Originally Posted by marlin444
Could you give a detailed version of your story. How were you injecting, etc?... I plan on starting my IGF today and would hate for that to happen to me.
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05-10-2005, 05:46 PM #9
Yea some good stuff here guys. Im starting in a week or two and im just tryin to figure out how I want to inject.
Is IM better PWO than sub-q?
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05-10-2005, 07:45 PM #10Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by j martini
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05-10-2005, 07:52 PM #11Originally Posted by bluethunder
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05-10-2005, 08:19 PM #12
Sub-q leaves a nasty burn, I tried it once and that was enough for me
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05-10-2005, 08:24 PM #13Originally Posted by JohnnyB
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05-10-2005, 08:48 PM #14Associate Member
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Originally Posted by KINGKONG
Could we possibly get one of the vets to answer this question?
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05-10-2005, 08:52 PM #15AR-Elite Hall of Famer
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
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05-10-2005, 08:59 PM #16Associate Member
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Originally Posted by KINGKONG
Honestly not trying to be rude, but the topic is IM or Sub-Q? Could someone who knows the answer to this question please post the answer?
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05-10-2005, 11:45 PM #17
i believe IM is what im gonna do.
now should i shoot in the muscle i just worked out? if it doesnt matter then i will probably shoot into the abs, but if its better then ill just shoot PWO into the muscle worked.
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05-11-2005, 02:14 AM #18
i always shoot it im in the bicep,i think thats the easyest and it looks like i got some site enhencement from it.
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05-11-2005, 02:25 AM #19Member
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IM but i take sq sometimes also
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05-11-2005, 07:19 AM #20Member
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An old post by einstein, i know he was a scammer but he did know his stuff.
There are IGF-1 receprors all over the place. You are, I'm assuming, taking IGF-1 to increase lean mass.You have a huge concentration of IGF receptors on your intestinal epithelia. If you go subQ, the IGF becomes systemic via your vascular system and will bind to receptors all over and cause growth (oversimplified). Lots will bind to IGF receptors on muscle, which is good. Some will bind to intestinal receptors or receptors on your spleen, which isn't what you're looking for. Going IM just focuses things and reduces possible adverse effects. This doesn't mean you'll get growth gut if you shoot subQ, but at high doses and over time, it will increase your chances.
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05-11-2005, 07:24 AM #21Member
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There has also being studies done that showed igf entered muscles less efficiently when injected subq i would guess that this is down to an increased amount throughout your entire body.
IM into the muscle just trained is the only way to go IMO.
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05-11-2005, 07:38 AM #22
I'm doing IM. It's awesome stabbing myself into a pumped up muscle. Biceps are the best! I love this stuff!
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05-11-2005, 08:32 AM #23Originally Posted by 956Vette
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05-11-2005, 10:21 AM #24
so you take two shots after each workout? say, one for each tricep?
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05-11-2005, 11:21 AM #25
That's what I do.
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05-11-2005, 11:28 AM #26Member
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Originally Posted by LB55blitz
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Originally Posted by j.r.w.
doing an im injection with a 29g pin is nothin. i actually think its easier than sub c. injections. you just jab it in, rather than trying to find loose skin to rotate.
oh yea and blue thunder..... do me a big favor and show me where you read that about it being good for "spot injections" for fat reduction. i dont think it could be possibly true, but ill stay open minded.
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I fill the syringe with BC water or B-12 then pull in the igf-1 last. That way if anything is lost in the syringe it's not the igf-1.
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05-15-2005, 08:37 PM #29Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Rumpster
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Originally Posted by Rumpster
Thats the same thing I do as well. But one thing I thought about is the weight of the IGF versus the solvent used. If the IGF weighs more it would only make sense that it would travel to the bottom of the syringe and the solvent would actually be on top. Just something to ponder.
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05-16-2005, 09:20 AM #31New Member
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Originally Posted by j.r.w.
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