IGF-!LR3 intra muscluar or sub q injection?

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08-03-2005, 09:48 AM
gq3856

IGF-1LR3 intra muscluar or sub q injection?

Currently
08-03-2005, 05:06 PM
JohnnyB

IM, sub-q tends to burn for me

JohnnyB
08-03-2005, 07:48 PM
01dragonslayer

I prefer IM as well....diluting with some vit B12.
08-03-2005, 08:33 PM
supersteve

I shoot sub-q and will switch to IM for my next cycle. Working great.
Doesn't burn sub-q if it's reconstituted with AA, BA is probably a diff story though.
08-04-2005, 03:26 AM
rodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by gq3856

Have read numerous fourms and am still confused some say intra muscular to muscle u are working out. others say sub q in stomach area.

Currently using HGH(jintropin) was thinking of getting some IGF-1. Reading a lot of good things about it.

So what is it IM or SUB Q plus what size pin?

Also what is a good dilutent to buy for it and how much per day for how long?

was thinking 40-60 mcg for 6 weeks.

Last question MR or Omega.

Thanks

-go IM with lr3 igf-1.

-29g 0.33x12.7mm.

-buy pre-mixed and ad some BW in the pin.

-if its your first run with igf then stick with 50mcg ed for 4 weeks.

-does'nt matter,wich ever you prefer.

-rodge
08-04-2005, 07:39 AM
gq3856

thanks for the info

Rodge i thought ference i
08-04-2005, 09:14 AM
BuildaBeast

Ok guy dumb question of the day. I've looked and can't find anything on sub q injection. Is this just a standard injection procedure? What does it stand for?

Thanks
08-04-2005, 09:17 AM
rodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by gq3856

Rodge i thought IGF-1lr3 came in a poder form like HGH. is that wrong also read it was not good to buy prediluted form.

If it is fine to buy prediluted does MR or Omega sell it that way. Buying it from one of these guys dont know any where else to get it.

I also see some people take sub q others IM is there a difference in effectiveness i would perfer sub q.

you can buy igf in lyophilized powder or suspended in AA either way is fine.

IM is the way to go with lr3 igf-1.

-rodge
08-04-2005, 09:19 AM
rodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuildaBeast

Ok guy dumb question of the day. I've looked and can't find anything on sub q injection. Is this just a standard injection procedure? What does it stand for?

Thanks

subq. injection is right under the skin in the layer of fat.

-rodge
08-04-2005, 05:03 PM
Slic4788

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuildaBeast

Ok guy dumb question of the day. I've looked and can't find anything on sub q injection. Is this just a standard injection procedure? What does it stand for?

Thanks

Stands for subcutaneous injection. Here's a good site explaning it:

http://www.fairview.org/healthlibrar...binasp_art.htm
08-04-2005, 07:14 PM
supersteve

^^ hmmm, i thought you injected the solution before letting go of the skinfold?
08-05-2005, 07:11 AM
gq3856

If it is Im

IM (sucks)(guess im a baby lol) but
08-05-2005, 07:20 AM
rodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by gq3856

IM (sucks)(guess im a baby lol) but how dont u have to split it up into the muscle being worked if so where to u inject into each muscle ie biceps or pecs.

Or my IM do u mean shooting in your thigh or butt.

Thanks

just shoot it IM with a slinpin in a place were there is'nt much fat/skin ie bicep/tricep.you won't feel a thing of it.

-rodge
08-05-2005, 08:31 AM
gq3856

thanks for the info

But if i
08-05-2005, 08:42 AM
rodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by gq3856

But if i do biceps and triceps one day should i split up the injections and do 25% in each bi and tri.

no,just shoot it all in 1 bicep the first day then all in the other bicep the next.thats all i do switch from bicep to bicep.

-rodge
08-05-2005, 08:51 AM
almostgone

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodge nl.

no,just shoot it all in 1 bicep the first day then all in the other bicep the next.thats all i do switch from bicep to bicep.

-rodge

..Same here....
08-05-2005, 10:29 AM
omega labs

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

IM, sub-q tends to burn for me

JohnnyB

I agree with Johnny here... I'M is the better way of admin. the igf... I no of folks doing it sub q. but they seem to complain of burning, and leaving red welps on there belly.

Thanks,
Omega Labs
08-05-2005, 11:02 AM
powerlif

Does the profits gain in force with igf1 are maintained in end?
under which name to find igf 1lr3?
08-05-2005, 12:12 PM
jerseyboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by gq3856

But if i do biceps and triceps one day should i split up the injections and do 25% in each bi and tri.

You don't need to split injections with LR3 (Long version) IGF as it doesn't have any site specific growth advantage like regular IGF. Just do what Rodge said.
08-05-2005, 04:42 PM
gq3856

so wouldnt it be easier to shoot in your gluts or thighs then

and allhe qu
08-05-2005, 04:46 PM
jerseyboy

Well more than one slin pin would be ideal.
08-05-2005, 04:47 PM
rodge

no cause thats were the skin and fat is mostly thicker and thus can't you shoot deep in the muscle.

-rodge
08-05-2005, 05:04 PM
jerseyboy

By the way Rodge you've been nominated by a few of us in the Lounge for VET status.
08-05-2005, 07:08 PM
supersteve

Sorry to hijack but it's kind of related to this ...

For both igf-1 and GH intramuscular injections, should you continually rotate the site of injection? I mean will it become less effective if you keep injecting into the same muscle all the time? I get the feeling that the receptors could become burntout/resistant or watever and not properly uptake the solution.

Thanks.
08-06-2005, 01:33 AM
rodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerseyboy

By the way Rodge you've been nominated by a few of us in the Lounge for VET status.

thnx i feel honored to be nominated.

-rodge
08-08-2005, 06:44 AM
Mr. Punisher

so besides the burining from sq it really makes no difference as far as absorption goes right?
08-08-2005, 12:55 PM
SPIKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerseyboy

By the way Rodge you've been nominated by a few of us in the Lounge for VET status.

I'm with you all day on that one
08-08-2005, 11:36 PM
gq3856

bump

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Punisher

so besides the burining from sq it really makes no difference as far as absorption goes right?

Does it make a difference
08-09-2005, 07:01 AM
Mr. Punisher

no I dont think so the same with GH some use it IM thinking that it will be absorbed better but it makes no difference!
08-09-2005, 08:04 AM
rodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by gq3856

Does it make a difference

probably not much but using it IM avoids getting welts and its absorpt quicker and thus faster higher bloodlevels and since your igf receptors are upregulated pwo it seems better to get it there were its needed quicker.

-rodge
08-09-2005, 09:43 AM
Mr. Punisher

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodge nl.

probably not much but using it IM avoids getting welts and its absorpt quicker and thus faster higher bloodlevels and since your igf receptors are upregulated pwo it seems better to get it there were its needed quicker.

-rodge

Rodge I dont mean to argue with u or question your knowlede! but the diference ia about 5 to 10 min from IM to sq
And one question Rodge if it is shot before workout it makes no diference right?
08-09-2005, 10:39 AM
rodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Punisher

Rodge I dont mean to argue with u or question your knowlede! but the diference ia about 5 to 10 min from IM to sq
And one question Rodge if it is shot before workout it makes no diference right?

as i said it prob does'nt make much difference but even if its just a minute quicker then there is some advantage although maybe not noticeble.

i think pwo is the way to go.

-rodge
08-09-2005, 12:30 PM
Mr. Punisher

cool my brother!
08-14-2005, 09:12 AM
gq3856

thanks for the info

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