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    how much hgh does it take to ...

    I admit i know very little about growth hormone , but do you have to take it in fairly high doses to become ****ed up looking like ronnie colman because his abs are messed up horribly

    my questoin is, is deformation of the head and abdomin a common side effect of hgh in moderate doses?

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    Around 10iu+ ED i would say...

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    It can be, those guys use some high doses. Now we can use LR3 IGF-1, which doesn't raise IGF-II like HGH and that's what causes HGH gut

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    Pros use around 20 iu's a day

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    Now we can use LR3 IGF-1, which doesn't raise IGF-II like HGH and that's what causes HGH gut
    Are you sure?? Is´nt growth of muscles and the gut coused by the same thing (IGF-1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big M
    Are you sure?? Is´nt growth of muscles and the gut coused by the same thing (IGF-1)
    Igf-2 is the main ingredient of a gh gut. Only gh transforms into both igf-1 and igf-2.

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    so if i used LR3 IGF-1 i wont have the hgh gut? will it still make my internal organs grow?

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    is 195.00 reasonable for 1mg of LR3 IGF-1, also how many iu's to a mg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elite2kr
    is 195.00 reasonable for 1mg of LR3 IGF-1, also how many iu's to a mg?
    Thats the same price I get for my igf-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky B
    Igf-2 is the main ingredient of a gh gut. Only gh transforms into both igf-1 and igf-2.
    Somatropin does not transform in igf, please !
    i cant believe !

    IGF-1 is primarily made in the liver and either reside there or are secreted.
    somatropin stimulate the production,but does not transform in igf.
    IGF-1 is mainly secreted by the liver,IGF-II is secreted by the brain, kidney, pancreas and muscle
    IGF-II is thought to be a primary growth factor required for early development (embrionic and neonatal) while IGF-I expression is seen in later life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elite2kr
    is 195.00 reasonable for 1mg of LR3 IGF-1, also how many iu's to a mg?
    buy it from muscle research.
    its ok.
    (media grade).

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    Ok, this thread pretty much answered my question in my other thread that I just started on IGF-2. Sorry for not reading the most recent or doing a search, my bad.

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    so how long would 1 gram of LR3 IGF-1 at a typical dose?

    if its a gram a week thats alot of cash

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    precision

    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
    Ok, this thread pretty much answered my question in my other thread that I just started on IGF-2. Sorry for not reading the most recent or doing a search, my bad.
    you said there:
    "from the liver producing IGF-2 (or it's converted from IGF-1?)?"

    but:

    IGF-1 is primarily made in the liver and either reside there or are secreted.
    IGF-1 is mainly secreted by the liver,IGF-II is secreted by the brain, kidney, pancreas and muscle
    IGF-II is thought to be a primary growth factor required for early development (embrionic and neonatal) while IGF-I expression is seen in later life.

    nicky said here:
    "Igf-2 is the main ingredient of a gh gut. Only gh transforms into both igf-1 and igf-2."

    but:
    Somatropin does not transform in igf.

    More research:
    Journal of endocrinology.
    Journal of Molecular Endocrinology.
    Endocrinology.
    Endocrine Journal.
    Endocrine Research.
    Hormone and Metabolic Research.
    Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism.
    Hormone Research. Books, Internet, etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elite2kr
    so how long would 1 gram of LR3 IGF-1 at a typical dose?

    if its a gram a week thats alot of cash
    1 gr is too much.

    at 50 mcg 30 days is 1.5 mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elite2kr
    so how long would 1 gram of LR3 IGF-1 at a typical dose?

    if its a gram a week thats alot of cash
    If it was possible to run a gram of igf-1 a week then ronnie colmen would still a amauter BB. Thats 100,000mcg's of igf-1 each day, talk about going hypo everyday.

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    how many iu's in a ml or cc

    Quote Originally Posted by elite2kr
    is 195.00 reasonable for 1mg of LR3 IGF-1, also how many iu's to a mg?
    hi guys
    first time doing gh ive got humatrope and want to take 5iu's a day 5 days on 2 off.
    first of all how the heck do i work out an iu
    and is 6 weeks lonk enough
    i'm also using sustanon 1 ampule a week and titroxin(t3)

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    open new thread.
    mr marc simon.

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