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    PWO IGF shake

    Would this be a good choice:

    50 Grams Whey
    30 Grams Carbs (blended oatmeal)

    Should I drink the shake before or after the IGF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reveremuscle
    Would this be a good choice:

    50 Grams Whey
    30 Grams Carbs (blended oatmeal)

    Should I drink the shake before or after the IGF?
    That sounds good. I would say before to spike insulin . Check into some dextrose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reveremuscle
    Would this be a good choice:

    50 Grams Whey
    30 Grams Carbs (blended oatmeal)

    Should I drink the shake before or after the IGF?
    No.80g dextrose/40g whey.Drink the shake immediately after training,then 15 minutes later take your shot.1 hr after that,have a Pro/carb meal.

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    The reason for 80g dextrose is.It has been shown to give the proper insulin spike required to drive nutrients into your muscle cells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    The reason for 80g dextrose is.It has been shown to give the proper insulin spike required to drive nutrients into your muscle cells.
    I just eat a Snickers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    The reason for 80g dextrose is.It has been shown to give the proper insulin spike required to drive nutrients into your muscle cells.
    I usually do my cardio at the very end with abs. Shouldn't I drink a shake and shoot IGF before 30-40mins of cardio/abs or can it wait until I'm done? I'm assuming I need to do this right after weight training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
    I usually do my cardio at the very end with abs. Shouldn't I drink a shake and shoot IGF before 30-40mins of cardio/abs or can it wait until I'm done? I'm assuming I need to do this right after weight training?
    Wait til your training/cardio session is complete.Then have the pro/carb PWO shake,then your shot 15 minutes later.

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    What's a good source of dextrose? I have Nlarge2, does that contain dextrose? Sorry for the ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reveremuscle
    What's a good source of dextrose? I have Nlarge2, does that contain dextrose? Sorry for the ignorance.
    You can buy 10 lb bags of dextrose at liquor stores.I think www.Allsportsnutrition.com sells it as well.It's real cheap bro.
    Or you can buy CellTech which has 80g of dextrose and 10g of creatine per serving.That's actually what I use.Saves me the trouble of measuring dextrose,plus I get my creatine dose daily as well.Add whey to that mixture,and you're all set.


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    What a good natural source of dextrose, honey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reveremuscle
    What a good natural source of dextrose, honey?
    honey is ok.But post workout,you need the proper insulin spike to drive nutrients to the muscle.Use dextrose post workout.You won't get fat.It will convert to glycogen to replace what you exerted during training.

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    dextrose is corn sugar right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reveremuscle
    dextrose is corn sugar right?
    Dextrose
    Dextrose, commonly called glucose, d-glucose, or blood sugar, occurs naturally in food, and is moderately sweet. It is a monosaccharide (basic unit of carbohydrates, C6H1206) and has a high glycemic index (digested carbohydrates ability to raise blood glucose levels, also called Gl) ranking at 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reveremuscle
    dextrose is corn sugar right?
    yes its coming from corn elaboration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    No.80g dextrose/40g whey.Drink the shake immediately after training,then 15 minutes later take your shot.1 hr after that,have a Pro/carb meal.

    I was always told to take your shot then drink your drink. Why is it better the way you stated it?

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    I use 50/50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainutrition
    I was always told to take your shot then drink your drink. Why is it better the way you stated it?
    IMO it's better to have the carbs in your system before hand.The IGF is quick reacting,so they can shuttle the already available carbs/nutrients to your muscle cells.
    Also,I've felt lathargic doing the shot and waiting to have the PWO shake.But this is my preference.Others will disagree with this, I'm certain of that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    IMO it's better to have the carbs in your system before hand.The IGF is quick reacting,so they can shuttle the already available carbs/nutrients to your muscle cells.
    Also,I've felt lathargic doing the shot and waiting to have the PWO shake.But this is my preference.Others will disagree with this, I'm certain of that.


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    How long do you wait to do your shot, before or after your drink? I do my shot and drink my drink, you're not going to hypo. I mix my shake, do my shot, then drink my drink, all post w/o

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyB
    How long do you wait to do your shot, before or after your drink? I do my shot and drink my drink, you're not going to hypo. I mix my shake, do my shot, then drink my drink, all post w/o

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    I take the shake,then about 15 minutes later the shot.I have gotten lathargic taking the shot and waiting 15-20 minutes to have the shake.
    I'm sure you can do it all at once and be fine with that.At Gold's gym they sort of frown on syringes in the locker room.So I have my shake and dart home,which is 8 minutes away.Then the shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    I take the shake,then about 15 minutes later the shot.I have gotten lathargic taking the shot and waiting 15-20 minutes to have the shake.
    I'm sure you can do it all at once and be fine with that.At Gold's gym they sort of frown on syringes in the locker room.So I have my shake and dart home,which is 8 minutes away.Then the shot.

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    What? They don't appreciate the roid shooting gallery in the locker room? What the hell is there problem?

    You can always go into the shitter and do it....
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    i usually eat a small-ish pick me up meal before the gym > workout > go home to a preloaded pin add the bw > shoot it > then have a shake. I never noticed a difference with the dextrose there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingof516
    i usually eat a small-ish pick me up meal before the gym > workout > go home to a preloaded pin add the bw > shoot it > then have a shake. I never noticed a difference with the dextrose there.
    The info I've read says the increased insulin is very synergystic with lr3 IGF-1 & AAS. IMO, It's a small window at PWO so you might as well max it out. I'll prefer dextrose over injecting slin for now. I just don't want to mess with slin, it's a personal thing with me. Scares me a bit since my mother has adult onset diabetes.
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    What is the best brand protein shake to take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsa8864667
    What is the best brand protein shake to take.
    I actually mix Cell Tech(1 serving) with 2 scoops(46g whey) of Optimum Nutritions Whey.
    "ON" might not be the greatest around.But a friend of mine works for them,and honestly Whey is Whey.So it's all just a matter of preference bro.

    I am waiting on a report from Muscle-Tech to see thier studies proving 80g dextrose is the proper amount to create the perfect insulin spike to drive nutrients to muscle cells.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    I actually mix Cell Tech(1 serving) with 2 scoops(46g whey) of Optimum Nutritions Whey.
    "ON" might not be the greatest around.But a friend of mine works for them,and honestly Whey is Whey.So it's all just a matter of preference bro.

    I am waiting on a report from Muscle-Tech to see thier studies proving 80g dextrose is the proper amount to create the perfect insulin spike to drive nutrients to muscle cells.


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    Doesn't cell tech have creatine in it too? I think I may just do as Rodge says on lr3 IGF-1 in PCT without AAS. I'll go clomid, nolva & tonkgkat in PCT.

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    allsports does not have dextrose... not that ive seen... im gonna look into the 10lb bag at liquor stores... also, the best price ive seen for a 2lb bag of Now's dextrose is about 2.50 a bag... search around and you'll find it.

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