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I am going to run a cycle but I am a little confused about wat Johnny B is saying about that it is beter to run igf 1 than hgh because igf 1 doesnt increase igf-2 and therefore you dont get a gh belly.
I am looking for mass and from what I now, i think gh is beter because you can run the gh al the time(igf-1 you have to cycle) and it builds muscle in a few ways(1 of them is igf)
what is your opinion, better run igf or gh
Sounds like you understand that pretty good, there's no hiden massage in that.Quote:
Originally Posted by europeman
HGH is more age depended, if you're on your 40's HGH is fine, even though I'm in that age group and would rather go with LR3, Mass with HGH takes high doses to get mass, which to me it isn't cost effectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by europeman
JohnnyB
hey,Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
i dont really understand the age depended thing bout hgh. Say a 25 young guy produces 1.5iu gh per day and a 40 old guy produces 0.1iugh/day. If the old guy takes 4iu gh/day, wouldnt that be the same as when the 25 one takes 5.5 iu/day. (say that the natural gh production keeps the same).
Or is it that the old guy produces almost nothing for a long time... so that the suddenly GH administration makes a much bigger effect then the young one who produces allready a quite big amount?!
thanks for reply
fred
I am considering 2 cycles:
1-25 test E 1000/2000mg (dont no yet)
1-10 60 mg d-bol or 200 mg anadrol
20-28 50 mg winnyject ed
1-13 Deca 600mg
14-25 tren E 600 mg
1-25 10 iu gh
5-8 15 iu slin pre and post workout
13-16 15 iu slin pre and post workout
21-24 15 iu slin pre and post workout
or
1-25 test E 1000/2000mg (dont no yet)
1-10 60 mg d-bol or 200 mg anadrol
20-28 50 mg winnyject ed
1-13 Deca 600mg
14-25 tren E 600 mg
1-4 100mcg igf
9-12 100mcg igf
17-20 100mcg igf
25-28 100mcg igf
5-8 15 iu slin pre and post workout
13-16 15 iu slin pre and post workout
21-24 15 iu slin pre and post workout
the second cycle will cost my almost half the price of the first one I mentioned with the gh, but wat cycle will give the best gains?
what bout the igf with say 4iu gh? Ive heard good things of both so dont know which i should chose...
Maybe another thought, u can also do the orals in the off-slin period (weeks 1-4 and 9-12)...gives also ur liver a little break in between..
dont paste this cycle on dbb if i were u :D
or in the of igf period in the second cycle. no dont post it there;)
i find it a awfull lot of juice for someone your age,not to mention that you prob won't need hgh or igf.give us some stats first cause you must be a huge m*th*rf*cker if your using this much of aas.your liver is gonna hate you when running dbol or drol for 10 weeks.and slin pre workout is useless imo its only gonna give a pump wich don't contribute to muscle growht.
-rodge
I would not take slin pre work out bro, it fine using 15iu post workout but even this is too much for sum.Quote:
Originally Posted by europeman
Use 15iu pre workout along with 15iu post workout and let us know if you live !!
I would be intrested for sure.
I dont mean to disrespect you bro, I just think its a very bad idea.
as with everything it comes down to how much you can afford to spend and how much of a chance you want to take.