Thread: IGF long term
12-23-2005, 11:39 AM #1
IGF long term
What do you guys think of this:
HGH (6 iu ed)
IGF (80 mcg pwo)
Humalog (10 iu pwo)
Now, I only workout with weights 3 days per week Mon, Wed and Sat.
So, I was thinking I could take the HGH 6 iu per day (1 + years), and take the IGF/SLIN pwo, for as long as I wished...SINCE I WOULD ONLY SHOOT IT 3 X PER WEEK. What do you think of this approach?
12-23-2005, 12:36 PM #2
i don't like the aproach your planning on doing plus according to your profile you are 20 years old, way to young to mess with hgh/lr3 imo.
but if you do contimue then you prob indeed need those doses to see some gains. but still then i would run the lr3 for 4 weeks 7/7 then slin 4 weeks pwo.
but as i said earlyer to young imo.
12-23-2005, 02:18 PM #3
Why not put some AAS in there? You're doing GH, IGF and slin. AAS would make a lot of sense in 3 month cycles for maximum gains. Let's say 500mgs/week of test? Try to workout 4-5 days a week too. I think it's a waste of money if you're not going to do this full on.
12-30-2005, 11:12 PM #4
The first thing I noted was how you said you only lift 3 days per week. I dont understand the logic of using those substances unless you are putting 100% into your lifting, 3 days per week just dont cut it.
12-30-2005, 11:57 PM #5Originally Posted by Maldorf
You never heard of DC style training?
Iron mans HIT training?
Big A's 3 day split program?
The list is endless with 3 day programs.No why?...THEY WORK!!!Less = more!
12-31-2005, 06:32 AM #6Banned
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12-31-2005, 08:19 AM #7
You are planning to shoot slin for as long as you wish? Soon you will have a perscription for it if you get my drift...
12-31-2005, 08:19 AM #8Originally Posted by Maldorf
12-31-2005, 08:28 AM #9Originally Posted by powerliftmike
12-31-2005, 11:16 AM #10
this past summer i switched from a 6 day split to a 3 day split and gained 8 lbs . . . off cycle!!
12-31-2005, 11:18 AM #11Originally Posted by Maldorf
go play in traffic
01-01-2006, 12:14 AM #12Originally Posted by taiboxa
Last edited by Maldorf; 01-01-2006 at 12:16 AM.
01-01-2006, 06:07 AM #13Originally Posted by Maldorf
You sound very young,and NAIVE.
01-01-2006, 06:23 AM #14Banned
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This was asked to Dorian yates;
Q We frequently hear that you do only one set per exercise. How did that come about, and how does it work in practice?
A I started doing one main set per exercise only after I won my first Olympia in 1992. Prior to that, I had done two sets per exercise. Here's how my training workload and intensity evolved.
I started training in 1983 when the vogue was volume training--20 sets per bodypart was not uncommon. My instincts told me that was not the way to go, and as I researched bodybuilding, I became attracted to Mike Mentzer's Heavy Duty system, which advocated intensity instead of volume. I started training four days a week, but very quickly felt I was overtraining and cut back to three times a week, working half the body at each session. After warm-ups, I did three sets of three exercises for large bodyparts and three sets of two exercises for smaller ones. With some slight modifications, this was my approach until 1986.
Feeling I'd gotten the most out of that format, I devised a three-way split in which I trained two major bodyparts per session. In conjunction with that, I reduced my workload and increased the intensity by cutting my main sets to two per exercise. With each workout lasting about 45 minutes. I was able to hit a four-times-a-week training schedule in which each bodypart was worked three times over a 14-day period. I was incorporating forced reps and sometimes rest-pause and negatives I applied these principles only to the last set of certain compound exercises. I stuck to this modus operandi right up to winning the 1992 Olympia, after which I was looking to increase the intensity even more.
My theory was that I had advanced to a stage where, with my strength and abilities to mentally focus, I could put 100% into one main set, go to failure and get the optimum muscular response. Even when I had been doing two sets per bodypart, I felt that maybe during set one I was holding something back in reserve for set two. Now, by doing one set, I knew everything could go--had to go--into that one effort.
In preparation for that one all-out effort, I would warm up thoroughly. For heavy compound movements, I would do three warm-up sets. The accompanying chart shows a typical schedule for incline barbell presses.
So that's how I developed my one-set strategy. It had taken nine years of hard training and application to build up to that level. It's tough, physically and mentally, to consistently put everything you have into one main set, but I believed in it. And with six Sandows, I have to believe it worked.
EXERCISE SETS REPS POUNDAGE
Incline barbell 1* 12 135
presses 2* 10 220
3* 8 310
1 8 425 ([dagger])
* Warm-up sets.
([dagger]) At failure, two or three forced reps would be completed,
followed by a couple of rest-pause or negative reps.
01-01-2006, 03:28 PM #15Originally Posted by Pinnacle
I have always found that if you train at the highest intensity and hit failure at each set the volume needs to be low to avoid overtraining. I am a big believer in training this way.
Last edited by Maldorf; 01-01-2006 at 03:39 PM.
01-01-2006, 07:39 PM #16Originally Posted by Maldorf
Train how you want.Means absolutely nothing to me.
01-02-2006, 07:48 AM #17Originally Posted by Pinnacle
"Yo bitch I may be ugly but atleast i aint got NO money!!!"
01-13-2006, 07:44 PM #18Originally Posted by Maldorf
01-13-2006, 11:18 PM #19Originally Posted by catabolic kid
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