Thread: insulin newb questions
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02-20-2006, 12:39 AM #1
insulin newb questions
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02-20-2006, 12:42 AM #2
Oh and also what do you do when coming off? Change in diet?
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02-20-2006, 01:02 AM #3
For your reading pleasure: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=192403
Originally Posted by vestax
Actually i believe it's 'best' to run it on AND off cycle.
Lemme explain.. for my next cycle i plan on running insulin 4 weeks on.. 4 weeks off tru-out the cycle... Then tru the PCT.
e.g.
Weeks: 1-16: Test-E
Weeks: 1-4; 9-12; Insulin PWO
PCT:
Weeks: 1-4: Nolva
Weeks: 1-4: Aromasin
Weeks: 1-4: Insulin PWO [on workout days.. or first thing in the a.m. on non-workout days]
Originally Posted by vestax
I think you've confused proposed pancreatic suppression with gonadal suppression.
It doesn't work the same way tho dude.
I think you meant to ask.. "How long after the cycle will it take for my pancreatic output, in response to carb ingestion, to return to normal"
The short answer?
The structure of our insulin use (the PWO application) has been proposed to be safe.. in that pancreatic suppression isn't likely.
Thus, to your question i'd have to say post-cycle your pancreatic output should be the same.
~Narkissos
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02-20-2006, 01:06 AM #4
You are a wealth of knowledge Narkissos. Good Post man!
GP
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02-20-2006, 01:09 AM #5Originally Posted by vestax
e.g. your PWO shake may be higher in carbs... If you normally have a mid-glycemic shake, you'd switch to a high-glycemic shake...You may have a second shake also etc.
Such adjustments depend on the individual.
When you 'come off'.. such adjustments are no longer 'necessary'... so you remove them.
That's about it.
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02-20-2006, 01:19 AM #6Originally Posted by Narkissos
e.g. Insulin resistance.
Not likely on short cycles... or mini-cycles (2 weeks... like what you propose)
I'm no authority on Insulin resistance.. but the gist of it is that it's manifestation is established tru the monitoring of Fasting BG levels prior to the start of a slin cycle.. during .. and comparitively after said cycle.
If it's noted at the culmination of a cycle.. the course of action is to attempt to arrest and reverse said condition true insulin-sensitising drugs.
I did not mention this in my previous post because:
Originally Posted by Narkissos
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02-20-2006, 07:50 AM #7
I actually meant that because you are adding a supraphysiological amount of insulin into your body...that you must be shutting down natural production...I am just curious but when you stop taking it does your body kick back in right away immediately after discontinuing use? no delay? thanks a lot bro have you heard of people using this shit for part of their AAS PCT?
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02-20-2006, 03:27 PM #8Originally Posted by vestax
I don't think you are shutting down your natural production, I think once you stop using insulin your natural production continues with producing the usual "x" amount it usually does.
Insulin is great for PCT, as a matter of fact I think that's the best time to use slin as slin is very beneficial for recovery. People usually use it 4
ON/OFF during cycle and through PCT. That's what I do.
-Gear
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02-20-2006, 03:34 PM #9Originally Posted by Gear
In bold above:
Great reply Gear... I subscribed to this topic.. but i was unable to log on before just now.
~Narkissos
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02-20-2006, 04:11 PM #10
I want to try insulin out, very very slowly at first- I'm not looking for crazy pro BB gains, just nice lean, easy to keep ones. Personally, I don't see what is so scary about insulin though. I work out at 3 and then usually am around the house all day so going hypo really doesn't scare me that much.
What's a good way to get these lean gains without gaining a lot of fat from the slin in the process? I am really trying hard to bring up a lagging chest and think that this may be helpful.
What would typical slin-only cycle gains be (although I will be running it with AAS)?
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02-20-2006, 05:35 PM #11Member
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Originally Posted by vestax
I have a script for insulin and I'm still waiting to pick it up. I was going to use it for a cutter, but I really don't understand the whole carbs and planning a diet around it.
So I'm just shying away from it for now. But to literally say that your not worried about going hypo is crazy.
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02-20-2006, 06:51 PM #12
I mean that if I go hypo I am not going to be somewhere without quick access to glucose. I think when using it as a cutter you have more to worry about.
How effective is it at cutting? Just good at keeping your muscle I suppose?
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02-21-2006, 01:27 AM #13Originally Posted by vestax
Originally Posted by vestax
Originally Posted by vestax
Originally Posted by vestax
Hope that helped.
-Gear
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02-21-2006, 01:32 AM #14Originally Posted by vestax
-Gear
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02-21-2006, 04:39 AM #15
if you ever do go hypo you will gain new respect for the slin. Just be careful bro.Learn all you can and get a meter to check you blood sugar with ,like diabetics use...
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02-21-2006, 05:34 AM #16New Member
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are the gains from slin really worth all that trouble???? What is so special about them
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02-21-2006, 06:48 AM #17
You can usually get the meter for free in Canada at any drug store if you buy like a 100 test strips or something (is it the same in the states?)
If I wanted to taper up from 1 IU --> 3IU slin....is 3IU considered a lot with respect to how much my body is naturally producing?
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02-21-2006, 12:50 PM #18Originally Posted by vestax
-rodge
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02-21-2006, 02:20 PM #19Originally Posted by weightgainer4L
-Gear
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02-21-2006, 05:15 PM #20Originally Posted by Gear
I thought it was bad for strength & weight but good for size which is mostly what I am concerned with (aesthetics)
Can you take it and not get fat or are the fat and muscle definetly going side and side?
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02-22-2006, 02:26 AM #21Originally Posted by vestax
-Gear
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02-22-2006, 08:52 AM #22
I am not after size or weight gain, just wanna keep my gains post cycle and increase in strength is always beneficial....I think I will try it just PCT rather than during my cutter....will def post results thanks for all the input bross
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02-22-2006, 09:22 PM #23Originally Posted by vestax
It's def a better idea to run slin with PCT rather then while you are cutting because when insulin is in the picture the chances of fat gain increase by far and that's the last thing you want while cutting.
-Gear
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02-22-2006, 10:37 PM #24Originally Posted by rodge nl.
Originally Posted by Gear
Agreed on point #2:Originally Posted by Gear
Originally Posted by vestax
Originally Posted by vestax
I should note that i've used slin and t3 together (only: nothing else added.. no androgens etc.) as my cutting stack.. with awesome results.
Originally Posted by vestax
~Nark
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