When do you FEEL GH

[hardgainer1]

I know you dont SEE the results really for a few months but when do you FEEL it at all.

[Benches505]

I started sleeping better at about a month into it. The sides kicked in shortly after

[OldPLer]

i am wondering the same thing, i have been on hgh for about a month and not sure if i can tell any improvement or not. It is not like the feeling of aas.

[hardgainer1]

so you dont feel extra good in the gym that first week or two, better pumps sense of well being, anything like that?

[plzr8]

so you dont feel extra good in the gym that first week or two, better pumps sense of well being, anything like that?

seems like you would be more interested in igf

[Benches505]

so you dont feel extra good in the gym that first week or two, better pumps sense of well being, anything like that?

None of that in the first month. Now the second month was another story and the 3rd and 4th kept getting better.

[hardgainer1]

well just did my first shot 2.5 iu in the love handle sub q
i am doing 5 on 2 off aiming to get to 3iu a day after a month go back on AAS cycle 750 mg test e a week for 16-18 weeks(havent decided yet) with 40mg dbol first 4 then back load with tren at 150 EOD for final 3 weeks running 3iu gh 5 on 2 off the whole time

[Benches505]

well just did my first shot 2.5 iu in the love handle sub q
i am doing 5 on 2 off aiming to get to 3iu a day after a month go back on ASS cycle 750 mg test e a week for 16-18 weeks(havent decided yet) with 40mg dbol first 4 then back load with tren at 150 EOD for final 3 weeks running 3iu gh 5 on 2 off the whole time

Sounds like a winner to me! Don't forget to eat like a beast and you will have some nice gains there.

[marcus300]

well just did my first shot 2.5 iu in the love handle sub q
i am doing 5 on 2 off aiming to get to 3iu a day after a month go back on ASS cycle 750 mg test e a week for 16-18 weeks(havent decided yet) with 40mg dbol first 4 then back load with tren at 150 EOD for final 3 weeks running 3iu gh 5 on 2 off the whole time

3ius a day wont do much except some fat loss and condition, normally you will have to run at least 6 months before seeing any type of noticable fat loss/condition. IMHO if your looking for results and muscle gains alot more as to be used.

[hardgainer1]

you think 4 or 5 iu? the sticky says 1-3 for what you describerd and 5-10 for building muscles. I am only 175 lbs maybe that doesnt make a diff but I would assume as it does with anything else that I could do 4 per day and probably get what someone over 200 lbs gets from 5-6 per day. Again though, I am assuming and we all know what that does..

[jbarkley]

I never really "felt" anything from gh, I have been using it non-stop since 11/05 but I never get sick anymore no colds or flu in the past two winters. My bodyfat is under 7% year round and after going through chemotherapy in the spring of 2005 my immune system was for shit. Btw, I'll be 49 in August so gh has proven to be the fountain of youth for me at my age. I'll compete in the San Jose Masters division in July and I feel great! I'm sure at your age your situation is completely different, but I believe in the stuff! Livestrong!

[keyser soze]

for me: month 1 - nothing. month 2 - sleep better and wild ass dreams started, noticed some cutting in the mid-section, felt a little thicker/more dense. month 3 - this is the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttteeeee.....thickness, strenght, cutting up big time. am in month 4...hope it keeps going!!!

[perfectbeast2001]

been running GH for 6 months or so. Up to as high as 6iu ED. I noticed changes in body composition after 3 months of use. Not reccomended if you want fast or dramatic results.

[hardgainer1]

well i figure after a month or so im beginning a new AAS cycle so it will all work together beautifully. everything will "kick in" at the same time

[plzr8]

well i figure after a month or so im beginning a new AAS cycle so it will all work together beautifully. everything will "kick in" at the same time

if thats what you wish to do, ideally you should start the hgh at least 2 months prior to aas...then run it through to at least 1 month after pct

[hardgainer1]

but i should definitely run them in tandem

[plzr8]

but i should definitely run them in tandem

yea, they are defintely best run together

hgh alone at that dose would not yield much results

[hardgainer1]

i think i am shooting to start AAS mid april to may, should be primed and ready to explode

[hardgainer1]

4th injection today of 2.5 iu, hands feeling swollen

[Benches505]

Bumpin this up for some more feedback..... Come on bruthas, post up!

[hardgainer1]

im feeling great actually if this is placebo effect, its some good placebos. Im never PCTing again without HCG and GH I feel awesome 1 month out from ending my AAS cycle i have never felt this good off cycle before

[hardgainer1]

oh AND my appetite is through the roof, not sure if that is due to GH or my intense leg workout yesterday but it is what it is

[Skills]

I started with hgh about 9 months ago and can remember I felt a little better after a while. Now I have so many drugs in my system I have no idea of what's what anymore :

[hardgainer1]

yeah thats one reason i wanted to start it on PCT, so i could see what the effects were more clearly. If you are on 750mg test dbols and tren plus GH hard to tell whats what lol

[Fixr]

keep up the posts, i am watching. I am on about the same time schedule as you with the GH and when I plan to start my first test cycle.
I have a question for the more experienced guys.
Does this cycle seem like it might be too much for a first timer?
Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex daily
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ weekly
Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST EN weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

By the time I start this I will have ramped up my GH to a minimum of 3iu a day and may go to 4.(depending on any sides)
What does everyone think? Any advice? Should I break the test and eq into 2 injections per week for each one?

[tempbrit]

keep up the posts, i am watching. I am on about the same time schedule as you with the GH and when I plan to start my first test cycle.
I have a question for the more experienced guys.
Does this cycle seem like it might be too much for a first timer?
Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex daily
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ weekly
Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST EN weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

By the time I start this I will have ramped up my GH to a minimum of 3iu a day and may go to 4.(depending on any sides)
What does everyone think? Any advice? Should I break the test and eq into 2 injections per week for each one?

If you are running GH along with this, then I would avoid the Nolvadex. I would try and use something else to curb the Estrogen impacts.

[hardgainer1]

why not run nolva?

[SVTMuscle*]

That's why I'm gonna start my GH cycle with IGF so i feel something immediately

[hardgainer1]

is IGF illegal? or is that the same thing that they sell on ar-r .com i am getting that confused

[SVTMuscle*]

iffy topic. I think technically yes, but, when used for research purposes, i believe its legal...but of course we're discussing using these products for our lab rats anyways!

[hardgainer1]

my rat is jacked son!

[livestrong86]

why avoid nov?

[hardgainer1]

why avoid nov?

'tis a mystery i love nolva as an anti e and PCT

[Fixr]

I posted a the question about the Nolvadex and HGH in another topic in this forum, but not too many responses have come in.

[hardgainer1]

any update on why not to use nolva with GH?

[Fixr]

people have been saying that Nolva lowers IGF levels. So if thats true then it is decreasing the effectiveness of the GH. It doesnt sound too concrete though. Many guys on here have run them together without any issues or noticeable loss in progress. I have decided to use it when I do my cycle. And speaking of my cycle, I got some of my gear a few weeks ago and yesterday I got the dreaded "siezed by customs letter". Sucks.