01-28-2006, 02:19 PM #1
GH EOD, who's doing it and what are your results?
There's a thread on this already but after 95 posts it's getting sidetracked so I figured to start this one. I start my GH next week at 2iu's ED for the first month. After that I was going to run 4iu 6/1 but after much research I"m contemplating EOD. I have 800ius and want to get the most out of it.
This thread isn't entirely in regards to myself but rather to see how you guys are reacting. I know several of you were under the EOD protocol. How's it going?? Any usefull feedback that you guys have? How are your gains .vs. sides?
01-28-2006, 02:42 PM #2Anabolic Member
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Where I live, in Norway, everybody cycle gh eod. Havent heard of anyone doing 5/2 or 6/1.
I havent tried gh yet, but I will probaly later this year. I will do eod.
From what Ive read, and what makes sense to me, eod will be much less likely to cause nagative feedback on your natrual gh-output!
01-28-2006, 02:49 PM #3Originally Posted by Jayhova16
01-28-2006, 04:48 PM #4Originally Posted by marcus300
01-28-2006, 04:56 PM #5Originally Posted by Hard Head
01-28-2006, 05:03 PM #6
I've run mine eod before. I liked running it eod b/ I felt like my body just never got used to it which is a good thing w/ GH. HOWEVER, getting too much in you in 1 day can make you so ****ing tired it's beyond belief. Much more energy running it at 4iu's ed as opposed to 8 or 10iu eod. We're talking about a lethargic feeling so damn bad that it seems like it takes everything you have just to get out of bed, get your meals in on time, and workout that day if you have to. It'd be easy to sleep your day away running too much eod. But at 2iu's you wont experience that. I think 2 iu's ed is a good idea for the first week or two until your body gets usd to it, but I wouldnt wait a month to kick it up. After a couple weeks I'd kick it up to at least 4iu's/day 5 on/2 off, or 7 or 8iu's eod.
01-29-2006, 01:58 AM #7
All good feedback, nice!!!! I have enough to run 10iu EOD for about 6 months. Going to pick up another 2 kits and run it like that for 7.5-8 months or so.
Keep the input coming. Would love to see what others have expereinced or heard about EOD. I have a feeling that this isnt exactly part of the norm as far as administering GH, but will become more popular as time goes on.........
01-29-2006, 02:26 AM #8
As you know Jay I'm running it 10IU EOD Jino, so far I have notice much less bloat than when I ran 4IU ED with Serano. I'm not far enough in yet to make any other comments, I'll keep you posted.
01-29-2006, 02:30 AM #9Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
I've been waiting for your comments BD. Keep us updated, I'm starting soon and the feedback I get from you guys can change my entire route. So far research has directed me to do so...................
01-29-2006, 10:48 AM #10Originally Posted by Jayhova16
01-29-2006, 11:02 AM #11
I think for younger althetes under 40 EOD is the way to go for muscle gain, but what are your thoughts on running GH pre compition for fat burning and retaining muscle ED or EOD ??
I am 5 weeks out from BB show and can run 6iuED or 12iu EOD, what do you think ??
01-29-2006, 11:06 AM #12Originally Posted by marcus300
01-29-2006, 11:14 AM #13Originally Posted by marcus300
nah, I def would not run it this way until your a few weeks into it. I did it a little higher at the start of my cycle and it made me sick. It's very slow acting stuff, you may not feel the effects of the what you did one week until the next week.
01-29-2006, 11:16 AM #14Originally Posted by Big Bapper
01-29-2006, 11:17 AM #15Originally Posted by Big Bapper
01-29-2006, 11:27 AM #16
The main reason I start off slow is b/c of the amount of time GH takes to "starts working." Marcus it seems like you've been favoring shorter cycles lately right? Please correct me if I'm wrong. So you starting high off the rip can and will benefit you moreso. You stated it perfectly when you said "depends what type of cycle you're running."
I for one am starting a 20 weeker and want to start the GH 4-6 weeks prior to cycle nice and easy. Ramp my way up so when my actually cycle starts I'll be ready for the 10ius. I have ran GH alone and didnt see too much of LBM. I dont want to run 10iu EOD for 6 weeks with no AAS if I could get more of a synergistic result when combined with my gear.
01-29-2006, 11:31 AM #17Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
So you could say I am kind of qualified to comment.......
01-29-2006, 11:45 AM #18Originally Posted by Jayhova16
why do you think gh takes time to work? when everything is in place the body is ready and primed gh will work along with AAS straight away, babys/teenagers produce gh in large amounts only for so many days a month and this is when growth accours, i could debate with you all night about long VS short cycles but i think we have been there before,
it does all depend on what type of cycling your doing but it makes alot of sense to get everything in at the required dose at the start of a cycle, its the most important time for growth,
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01-29-2006, 12:10 PM #19Originally Posted by Jayhova16
Quite honestly,if I were you I'd run 2 iu's right up til your cycle,then blast away at the high dose protocol right from the get go.I'd even consider cycling the HGH doses throughout the long cycle.Like 4 weeks high dose,then 4 weeks at 2 iu's.
just my 2 cc's...
01-29-2006, 12:56 PM #20Originally Posted by Big Bapper
An example is at 4IU's I couldn't take my wedding ring off my fingers were so swollen, and I have little to no bloat at my current dosage as well as my hands not going numb.
I agree with Pinn on starting low Precycle, My GH came late so I got it in the first week of my cycle, that is why I choose to start at the dosage I did.
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01-29-2006, 01:11 PM #21Banned
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I can confirm The EOD approach reduces the risks of sides.I have seen this with myself,but especially with my girlfriend who uses HGH.She started with 1iu ED and reicieved the associated sides you get with HGH,then she adapted 2iu EOD which agreed with her body,she has never looked back.
The REASONS I employ this method.
2.Less sides and safer,give your body a rest.
3.I am going to run HGH for a number of years,could be for life.
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01-29-2006, 01:33 PM #22
interesting read this thread!i am on my 1st run with growth,i may start eod and up the dose!
01-29-2006, 02:30 PM #23Originally Posted by Pinnacle
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh that is EXACTLY how I was going to run it.
Since I"m starting in 6 weeks or so I'm going to run 2iu ED having that initial kit last 50 days. Then blast away at the 10iu EOD for 5 months. Curious to see how this goes.......................
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01-29-2006, 03:48 PM #24Originally Posted by Jayhova16
you should look at short cycling i know i will convince you one day! all the best with your cycle, 10ius EOD sounds great
01-29-2006, 03:58 PM #25
After this long cycle I really think I will give it a go Marcus, seems like an interesting concept. But would you say older more advanced users would benefit from it more?
01-29-2006, 04:08 PM #26Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
01-29-2006, 04:13 PM #27Originally Posted by marcus300
It's alright buddy, your input is always appreciated.
Re-check post #1. Was going to run 2iu's prior to cycle then hit the 10iu EOD day 1 of my 20 weeker............
01-29-2006, 04:45 PM #28Originally Posted by Pinnacle
01-29-2006, 05:52 PM #29Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
Just out of interest if 10iu shots work so well for you from day one then why bother starting with a lower dose ??
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01-29-2006, 08:43 PM #30
I'd try it both ways and then choose, I have not tried the lower dosage precycle yet because of my GH's timing on getting to me, I will next time around. Good info Big Bapper, seems like you have a lot of first hand experience we can learn from.
01-30-2006, 03:13 AM #31Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
01-30-2006, 03:28 AM #32Originally Posted by marcus300
01-30-2006, 03:50 AM #33Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
02-01-2006, 10:51 PM #34
I like your reasoning marcus. I'll have to keep reading on it and give it a whirl sooner then later..............
02-01-2006, 11:06 PM #35
Everything that I have read so far about the ED vs EOD is regarding sides. Has anyone that has run it both ways noticed any better gains from EOD. What I'm getting at is I take mine 5/2 and don't have any problems with sides. Would switching to EOD improve the results that I achieve from the GH or just reduce the sides.
Basically, would there be a benefit to going 4iu's EOD vs. 2iu's ED other then just less side effects.
I realize that this dosage is small to most of you but I would still like to maximize the amount that I do take.
Thanks for the info.
Last edited by Deal Me In; 02-01-2006 at 11:09 PM.
02-01-2006, 11:19 PM #36Originally Posted by Deal Me In
We're talking high dose EOD,not HRT doses.Also it's not really about sides effects,more-so to allow your pituitary to function as normally as possible while taking(high dose) synthetic HGH.The theory behind it as well is to try an mimic growth spurts of adolescents.
But again,for YOU, ifit isn't broke,don't try an fix it.Most of the guys talking in this thread have way different goals than you.Keep that in mind too.
02-01-2006, 11:40 PM #37
im in my 16 week of jino...for the last 3 week i was running 6iu eod and i don't like it, im starting back tooday at 5/2... 4iu on no workout days and 6iu on workout days
02-02-2006, 04:15 AM #38Associate Member
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my question is.....if one has never taken GH, can he imediately start taking 7iu's EOD for 6 months.... or those he have to escalate it by doing a 1 month 2iu ED first???
I was going to do 1 month 2 iu ED and then jump it to 7iu's EOD.... This is the first time... I want to gain muscle while shred some fat ( I am going to take AAS too)
02-02-2006, 05:20 AM #39Originally Posted by bolin
02-02-2006, 07:24 AM #40
Just a quick reminder to all that read this. I/We are not trying to start an epidemic here. A lot of theories and methods evolve from "board talk" so we're trying to figure out what is the best possible way to administer GH with minimal sides. There is plenty of research that shows EOD would be effective. Will lt? We shall soon see...........
If you have never tried GH dont go srtaight into EOD b/c certain people are. EOD has never been mentioned on this board since I"ve been on it until the past month or so (from my understanding). So now that its being brought I'm afriad we're going to be getting all these posts on why is EOD better then a split on a daily basis. In reality no one can say 100% for sure which way is better. Thats why this entire trial and error phase is taking plase. To see what works better for the individual.
So for those that have just started GH or really enjoy a 5/2 or 6/1 split then stick with it. And definitely the people that are taking a moderate dose for "fat loss" stick with what you're doing. This method is not for the financially hindered individual nor a beginner. 800iu's is going to last me 6 months, so depending on what you pay it can put a nice dent in your fanny pack..............................
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