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    First hgh and igf cycle help

    Okay to double check I need some advise on how to take these. I want to add mass not worried about leaning out at all I'm on a bulking diet and will not be running any anabolic steroids just hgh and igf. How should I take these, should igf lr3 be treated like insulin or something of the sort I'm not completely clueless but I just want to maximize mass gains during this cycle, I have 1mg of igf lr3 and extensive supply of hgh so staying on for a while isn't a problem but I know igf should only be used for about 4 weeks at a time. Someone please shed some light on good protocol for "Mass" gains not interested in fat loss. Thanks

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    I understand you're looking for mass so I'll word this accordingly.
    I will use my personal experience as reference.

    When I run gh with igf during bulking it is as follows

    peptides ghrp-2+ modgrf1-29+ 10 min 3 iu GH+ 40 g protein 0 carbs + 30 min + 20 mcg lr3-Igf x3

    That means peps,gh, igf 3 times a day.
    total 300 mcg peps, 9 iu gh , 60 mcg lr3Igf ED.

    I choose to "micro-dose" my lr3Igf as to avoid saturation , going hypo, + shutting down natural mgf production and utilization.

    You did not ask about T3 but I choose to use 50 mcg split into 2 equal doses ED. Using T3 will help to increase nutrient partitioning as you will be eating ravenouslly , correct?
    The peptides will also increase appetite and utilization of overall calories plus creating a "synergy" with the gh.
    I hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifeguard102 View Post
    I understand you're looking for mass so I'll word this accordingly.
    I will use my personal experience as reference.

    When I run gh with igf during bulking it is as follows

    peptides ghrp-2+ modgrf1-29+ 10 min 3 iu GH+ 40 g protein 0 carbs + 30 min + 20 mcg lr3-Igf x3

    That means peps,gh, igf 3 times a day.
    total 300 mcg peps, 9 iu gh , 60 mcg lr3Igf ED.

    I choose to "micro-dose" my lr3Igf as to avoid saturation , going hypo, + shutting down natural mgf production and utilization.

    You did not ask about T3 but I choose to use 50 mcg split into 2 equal doses ED. Using T3 will help to increase nutrient partitioning as you will be eating ravenouslly , correct?
    The peptides will also increase appetite and utilization of overall calories plus creating a "synergy" with the gh.
    I hope this helps.
    Yeah it does help, but when should these be taken, considering 4 iu gh, 40 mcg of igf total. T3 didn't consider it.

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    If you decide to run T3 even at low dose 12.5 mcg U should add Test.
    Unfortunately even though T3 helps as stated, it also increase Igf binding proteins.

    If u have your dose of 4 iu and 40mcg , no porblem it is easy .
    2iu + 20mcg x2 am and preworkout.

    I thought you had unlimited access to gh and were asking for the best "Mass" cycle. No holds barred.

    What you have proposed is not typically suggested for mass however.

    Life

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    Oh I do just wanted to start with low dose because it's first run, gh will ramp up gradually, my bad should have been more specific only plan to hit igf for 4 weeks. I should pin ED or EOD and in muscle group I'm about to train?

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    My exp with lr3 is that it must be cycled for a year 6 mos on 6 mos off .
    ALTERNATING MONTHS. 1/1

    You will have 2 20 mcg doses so pin one side of the body AM then the other Pre workout. No need to split doses bilat. You will do this anyway with separate doses.
    If you want some variety take your first dose AM and second before bed.

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    Thanks man plan to use this protocol

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    keep in touch.

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    I might have missed it but lr3 should be shot Ed or eod?

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    Using igf, okay I've got an idea from another post but wanted to make sure this is correct. Reconstitute 1 ml of AA in my 1mg vial and then when injecting pull 50 iu of BW or B12 into 1cc insulin syringe then the draw desired amount of igf which will be such a small amount on syringe. Is this correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liftw8t View Post
    Using igf, okay I've got an idea from another post but wanted to make sure this is correct. Reconstitute 1 ml of AA in my 1mg vial and then when injecting pull 50 iu of BW or B12 into 1cc insulin syringe then the draw desired amount of igf which will be such a small amount on syringe. Is this correct?

    To answer the top question first. ED twice a day at 20mcg x2

    To answer the second question second,

    it is very simple if you know these things.

    PEPTIDE MG -EX. 2mg for Mod1-29 up to 10mg for ghrp-2/6
    DOSE REQUIRED - Ex 50mcg, 100 mcg, 250 iu etc
    SYRINGE VOLUME - Ex 1 ml insulin syringe = 100 units, .5ml =50 units, .3ml=33 units
    AMOUNT OF SOLUTION -1 ml , 2 ml etc.

    If you need more help go to this link
    http://peptidecalculator.com/calculator.html

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    Awesome thanks man

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