Night shift work effect on natural HGH

**boxer08** · 04-21-2014, 01:53 PM

I work night sifts 3 -4 days out of the week, don't get to eat any food during the 7 hours i work and get in at 7AM so i don't end up getting asleep till 7:30 - 8:00Am I'm still getting around 6 hours sleep would my body still produce the same amounts of Hgh naturally with this pattern. I am also using a low dose hgh which i have to use different times of the week because of work.

**Bonaparte** · 04-21-2014, 10:35 PM

If the answer is "yes", are you going to quit your job?

**kaptainkeezy04** · 04-21-2014, 11:11 PM

so, out of 24 hours in a day, you only get to eat for 11 of those hours?

8 hours of sleep is preferable, but 6 is still good, as long as you are sleeping deep and not tossing and turning.

**thisAngelBites** · 04-22-2014, 03:17 AM

I think (not an expert on this, but I have read a couple of articles in passing) that people who work shift work have their diurnal rhythms that are approximately shifted along with their day. In other words, where most men have their peak testosterone at approx 8 am, yours would be at the time you wake. I expect it would be similar with GH, although I expect that with all things involving shift work, your hormone production may not be optimal, because you are working against the natural light cues that influence your system.

There's a lot of evidence that shift work is bad for you - all the artificial light and lack of natural light. I think some EU countries require shift workers to be paid more due to increased health risks. So if you can find a way to work normal hours, that would probably be a good long-term move.

**Times Roman** · 04-22-2014, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

I think (not an expert on this, but I have read a couple of articles in passing) that people who work shift work have their diurnal rhythms that are approximately shifted along with their day. In other words, where most men have their peak testosterone at approx 8 am, yours would be at the time you wake. I expect it would be similar with GH, although I expect that with all things involving shift work, your hormone production may not be optimal, because you are working against the natural light cues that influence your system.

There's a lot of evidence that shift work is bad for you - all the artificial light and lack of natural light. I think some EU countries require shift workers to be paid more due to increased health risks. So if you can find a way to work normal hours, that would probably be a good long-term move.

even worse than shift work is ROTATING shift work! blokes on rotating shifts seem to be walking zombies most of the time

**boxer08** · 04-22-2014, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

If the answer is "yes", are you going to quit your job?

Not yet looking for a change anyway though.

**boxer08** · 04-22-2014, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

so, out of 24 hours in a day, you only get to eat for 11 of those hours?

8 hours of sleep is preferable, but 6 is still good, as long as you are sleeping deep and not tossing and turning.

Correct 3 -4 days a week mainly 3. The sleep i do get i don't wake unless i need the toilet.

**boxer08** · 04-22-2014, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

I think (not an expert on this, but I have read a couple of articles in passing) that people who work shift work have their diurnal rhythms that are approximately shifted along with their day. In other words, where most men have their peak testosterone at approx 8 am, yours would be at the time you wake. I expect it would be similar with GH, although I expect that with all things involving shift work, your hormone production may not be optimal, because you are working against the natural light cues that influence your system.

There's a lot of evidence that shift work is bad for you - all the artificial light and lack of natural light. I think some EU countries require shift workers to be paid more due to increased health risks. So if you can find a way to work normal hours, that would probably be a good long-term move.

Shame this country wouldn't increase the pay for us that do shift work. Im currently looking for a job with normal hours, i hate this pattern.

**boxer08** · 04-22-2014, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

even worse than shift work is ROTATING shift work! blokes on rotating shifts seem to be walking zombies most of the time

I have also done this work in the past and totally agree with the walking zombie part. One week i was only sleeping for 2 - 2.5 hours sleep a night for the 5 days...i was like something out of shaun of the dead

**Times Roman** · 04-22-2014, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by boxer08

I have also done this work in the past and totally agree with the walking zombie part. One week i was only sleeping for 2 - 2.5 hours sleep a night for the 5 days...i was like something out of shaun of the dead

sleep deprivation has a significant impact on quality of time spent in the gym, ability to grow, ability to eat...........

**thisAngelBites** · 04-22-2014, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

sleep deprivation has a significant impact on quality of time spent in the gym, ability to grow, ability to eat...........

It's more than just sleep deprivation. There is a lot of concern that upset circadian rhythms decrease production of melatonin and other antioxidants, and lead to increased rates of cancer. The link is strongest to breast cancer (I think because the studies are often done on nurses) but there is developing concern for colorectal and prostate cancer.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/707460

Good luck to you in your job search, boxer08.

**Docd187123** · 04-22-2014, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

I think (not an expert on this, but I have read a couple of articles in passing) that people who work shift work have their diurnal rhythms that are approximately shifted along with their day. In other words, where most men have their peak testosterone at approx 8 am, yours would be at the time you wake. I expect it would be similar with GH, although I expect that with all things involving shift work, your hormone production may not be optimal, because you are working against the natural light cues that influence your system.

There's a lot of evidence that shift work is bad for you - all the artificial light and lack of natural light. I think some EU countries require shift workers to be paid more due to increased health risks. So if you can find a way to work normal hours, that would probably be a good long-term move.

If a testosterone value is found to be low, it is important to determine the time that the sample was obtained. Serum testosterone levels follow a diurnal rhythm, at least in younger men, with values near 8 AM being, on average, 30% higher than the trough levels later in the day.5–7 The timing of the diurnal variation may be different in night-shift workers, who may require assessment at a more appropriate time of the day (ie, upon awakening).

Male hypogonadism: More than just a low testosterone

**lovbyts** · 04-23-2014, 02:08 AM

Sleep is over rated, I always say Ill sleep when I die... May be sooner than later since I also work nights. 8pm - 8am 3 days one week 4 the next week. Although it's not rotating work I still rotate because on my days off I switch to day schedule.

I routinely go 24 hrs with no sleep and even 48 at least 1x a month.

Up until recently I was only getting 4hrs of sleep at a time, usually no more than 2hrs without having to get up and then try to go back to bed. The last couple of months I have been getting 6-8hrs uninterrupted.

Found out I have fibromyalgia .

Luckily my job does pay extra for working nights and I carry plenty of life insurance so the wife and kid will be compensated just in case.

Why cant you eat good while at work? I eat better at work than I do at home on my days off. I have food on my desk 24/7. Nice thing about working nights is no management and fewer people.

I dont see a problem with taking the hgh at different times.

**Docd187123** · 04-23-2014, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Sleep is over rated, I always say Ill sleep when I die... May be sooner than later since I also work nights. 8pm - 8am 3 days one week 4 the next week. Although it's not rotating work I still rotate because on my days off I switch to day schedule.

I routinely go 24 hrs with no sleep and even 48 at least 1x a month.

Up until recently I was only getting 4hrs of sleep at a time, usually no more than 2hrs without having to get up and then try to go back to bed. The last couple of months I have been getting 6-8hrs uninterrupted.

Found out I have fibromyalgia .

Luckily my job does pay extra for working nights and I carry plenty of life insurance so the wife and kid will be compensated just in case.

Why cant you eat good while at work? I eat better at work than I do at home on my days off. I have food on my desk 24/7. Nice thing about working nights is no management and fewer people.

I dont see a problem with taking the hgh at different times.

I used to say the same thing about sleep lol. Sleep is for the dead! Now for the last several years sleep has been a problematic issue for me as I either will not be able to fall asleep or wake up multiple times throughout the night. Suffice to say my mind changed on it's importance and my body is constantly run down bc of it. For reference I average about 3-4hrs of sleep a night. A good night is when I sleep for 6+ and wake up less than a couple times. A bad night is me tossing and turning for 7hrs before finally saying fukk it and get up for work without actually having slept a wink.

**boxer08** · 04-23-2014, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Sleep is over rated, I always say Ill sleep when I die... May be sooner than later since I also work nights. 8pm - 8am 3 days one week 4 the next week. Although it's not rotating work I still rotate because on my days off I switch to day schedule.

I routinely go 24 hrs with no sleep and even 48 at least 1x a month.

Up until recently I was only getting 4hrs of sleep at a time, usually no more than 2hrs without having to get up and then try to go back to bed. The last couple of months I have been getting 6-8hrs uninterrupted.

Found out I have fibromyalgia .

Luckily my job does pay extra for working nights and I carry plenty of life insurance so the wife and kid will be compensated just in case.

Why cant you eat good while at work? I eat better at work than I do at home on my days off. I have food on my desk 24/7. Nice thing about working nights is no management and fewer people.

I dont see a problem with taking the hgh at different times.

I work in a night club so i don't get to sit around and eat and as for people there's over 300 in the place on a quiet night lol

**Anonona** · 04-24-2014, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

It's more than just sleep deprivation. There is a lot of concern that upset circadian rhythms decrease production of melatonin and other antioxidants, and lead to increased rates of cancer. The link is strongest to breast cancer (I think because the studies are often done on nurses) but there is developing concern for colorectal and prostate cancer.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/707460

Good luck to you in your job search, boxer08.

Plus mental health issues etc. You can use a light box (10,000 lux as used for SAD) for 15-30minutes upon waking to try and set your rhythms although this is of lesser value to someone on rotating shifts. If trying a light box, try setting the timer for 5 minutes before your alarm.