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Hey Guys,
I have heard a lot of mix reviews about the Grey Top 191aa being fake. The online source that I use has been on point with everything else (e.g. Gear & Ancillaries/PCT) so I purchased 500 iu's within hopes that it is legit (please be real because my wife is going to kill me).
My question is:
1) What type of blood work can i take to find out if it is real?
2) I have heard to take 10 iu's 3hrs prior to blood work, Is this correct?
if so, what blood work should I get IGF-1 and GH only?
The general consensus is that unless your GH is from a real pharmaceutical company (Pfizer, Eli Lilly, GenSci) what you are getting is not real GH. The reason is that equipment to make GH costs millions of dollars and your typical small shop cannot possibly afford to do it. Some even say that GH coming from large Chinese pharmaceutical companies aren't even legit. So any (color) top whether its grey, blue, red, black, is all considered underground generic.. which.. has a supremely high chance (99%) of it not being real GH, but rather, other peptides and chemicals that give you the side-effect feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boneslapper2002
You should take IGF-1 and GH Serum levels when taking your bloods. Pin 10IU 3-3.5hrs before the blood draw. Make sure you take your IGF-1 and GH Serum levels PRIOR to taking any GH so that you know what your personal baseline is.
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Kabtiz
You don't need to do 10 IU's. I'm sure 4-5 would suffice.
Thanks KelKel,Quote:
Originally Posted by kelkel
I also found out that my online source stated that if my HGH is under batched that they would give me a full store credit so I could purchase a Pharma Grade HGH (e.g. Eli Lily, Pfizer, Merck, Novo Nordisk etc...). It seems like they are really backing there product. I know that they are gtg because I purchased some gear and it took 9 weeks to get it however, they reshipped my order 6 weeks after I complained and I received both shipments the reshipment only took about 3 weeks. I thought that I could get more by purchasing the colored tops because of the price compared to Pharma Grade plus they are shown to be tested Grey Tops 26.1 NG/ML. I am hoping they are GTG but if not at least I know they will give me a store credit. So my question is:
1) Should my HM and IGF-1 levels be higher than normal while taking HGH?
2) I know I do BW pre HGH, but how long should I wait after I start HGH to do BW again?
How often should I get my Blood Work done? should I only check GH and IGF-1 Levels for each Blood Work?
I would take GH for 2-3 weeks then get retested. Reason is your IGF-1 levels aren't spiky like GH and gradually increase as you stay on GH. Your GH levels will vary and spike throughout the day. If you're worried that your stuff is not legit and want to know ASAP, then you can pin 10IU and get GH Serum test on the same day.... but serum levels won't tell how well your body reacts to it, the IGF-1 result does. And the test will only tell you if the stuff is definitely not GH (with a result of 0.0) but won't tell you if it is (even if the GH Serum level is higher than normal). Other substances can boost your GH Serum level too.
Dont waste your money. Its fake.
God knows whats in it.
I know you should keep the HGH in the refrigerator after reconstituting but what if I am traveling out of town over night? How long can the HGH stay out of the refrigerator? What can you advise the best method for traveling?
Hi BB,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.BB
I think the grey tops are gtg I did some BW however I did not do pre BW but my Levels came back on the high side
Range 0.0 - 10.0 ng
My results were 7.4 ng (I took 10iu 2hrs b4 the TEST)
7.4 is really low....Quote:
Originally Posted by Boneslapper2002
Just because 74% of the 10iu in your blood was present doesn't mean that your stuff is only 74% pure (it also does't mean that is greater purity either). In the body, it is quickly used and what is left is quickly converted to igf-1.
10 iu three hours later should test around 20. Even real pharma grade with scientists in controlled conditions experience great variation in this number, however, so it is only a rough guideline.
The IGF number takes time to build up. Use it for several weeks before testing for this.
Sorry to say my man, but there is a 99.9% chance it is fake. I think everyone trying HGH has been conned at some point because we all hoped the (insert random color) tops were good. Secondly, think about what you're asking us. "Are the grey top 191aa gtg?" First of all, there's I don't know how many different labs selling a "grey top", so the color means nothing. It's not like one lab made a grey top and all the other labs said to themselves "Oh such-and-such lab is making a grey top, so we better not infringe upon that." And all hgh you put in your body should be 191aa, so I'm not sure why this "lab" even mention that. I think the last time anyone made or even promoted their product as being 192aa was 7 years ago.
Just because someone's steroids are gtg doesn't mean their hgh is. It is light years easier to make steroids than it is to make HGH. Basically someone saying "Their steroids are gtg, so their hgh probably also is gtg" is practically the same thing as saying "Stride makes good bubble gum, so they probably could make some fire HGH as well".
Good luck to you. I learned a long time ago that the only HGH worth buying is from a doctor or someone with a prescription. I'm not sure why you're taking it, but if it's to get quicker results, I totally understand that, but even if it was the real deal, you could save a lot of money by just eating well, taking proper supplements, and training hard.
If you didn't get your generic hgh from TP then it's probably fake.
Wouldn't matter which source you got them from, the originate all from the same place, its also irrelevant what colour tops you have on them. They'll put what ever colour you want and what ever box you need.
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Originally Posted by marcus300
While I agree with you that almost all generic hgh is crap, (99%) and colors mean nothing. I disagree that it's all crap. Now with that said I do agree with you when tell people to stick to pharma hgh. Because the odds of most finding generic hgh that is legit would be like hitting the lottery.
I'm not going to reply on this thread to you Michael because you sent me a pm so I will write to you in detail which hopefully you will see things differently. I am sure you will.Quote:
Originally Posted by michael30
Just with BW(which still does not show all necessary data) it's a typical rule of thumb that generic GH is about 1/4 strength at best
I have been researching GH & it's just the way it is
Generic can be use, but you will be pumping that shit by the ML to see similar results to HG