Thread: Growth from my Endocrinologist
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03-20-2004, 07:40 PM #1Junior Member
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Growth from my Endocrinologist
To cut quickly to the chase I have been into weight training for 15 yrs and have lots of sensible cycles behind me . I'm 50 yrs and have recently had my endo do all the bloodwork thats needed to put me on growth . To convince him that I was running low hormonally , even at my age , I came off of a test cycle that I was on to give him the results that I desired . I forgot to say that the reason that I'm going through him is because my insurance will pay for it . My bloodwork results showed my test levels being extremely low and he has started me off at 300 mg every other week, an insult to us that know better and I am about to start the growth at 4iu daily . I'm happy with the dosage of gh but I 'm wanting to up my test dosage on my own , not extemely but to about 600 a week . He will be periodically doing bloodwork to check values and I'm afraid if he sees my test levels pretty high he might stop all therapy . Thoughts on this appreciated . TC
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03-20-2004, 08:53 PM #2
My endo hasn't given me a scrpit yet, I have low HGH/IGF-1 but he does check my test levels when running my HGH/IGF-1
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03-21-2004, 03:16 PM #3
Sorry, I don't see any way around it. If you're administering the shots yourself, you can time things as you did the first time to allow for low test levels upon bloodwork, assuming blood tests will be planned well in advance and won't be very frequent. If they are somewhat frequent, it wouldn't be a good idea to let test levels fluctuate for the sole purpose of maintaining a script.
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03-21-2004, 06:19 PM #4Junior Member
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Thanks Einstein, Your right about the test fluctuations . I don't have a script for the test , I have to go to his office to get those injections . I'm getting the pin for the growth . I was just curious , since that will not be enough test for the gains that I'm used to , if I could probably run propionate @ 100 mg several times per week and get away with it if I stopped 4 or 5 days before my next bloodwork is done . Do you think that would work or do you think my levels would still be to elevated ?
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03-21-2004, 06:30 PM #5Member
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Originally Posted by topcat50
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03-21-2004, 06:55 PM #6Originally Posted by topcat50
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03-21-2004, 07:23 PM #7Originally Posted by flexshack
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03-21-2004, 10:03 PM #8Member
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
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03-22-2004, 08:46 AM #9Originally Posted by flexshack
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03-22-2004, 11:27 AM #10Junior Member
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Flex, I am almost 51 years and am a very successful business man . Aside the work that I do for the business that I work for I'm on several committees that require meetings and planning for other areas in our business . I do not sleep but maybe 3 hrs per night and do not have much energy to push myself through my day . I don't feel like I have the mental sharpness that I did a few years ago and I have to wake up every morning and feel as good as I possibly can . I went to my endo with these problems and he did my bloodwork and discovered that my test level were low and my Igf-1 level was low also . I recently went in and he did a stem test and an adrenaline test that took a whole day of injecting cortisone in my vain and drwing samples every thirty min. for a couple of hours . That afternoon I took a propananol tab and two L-Dopa tabs and again he took my values every thirty minuites for a couple of hours .Thats the test that has to be done to be put on growth . All Prescription plans will not pay for this but mine does . Hope this helps in answering your question .
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03-22-2004, 11:46 AM #11Member
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Originally Posted by topcat50
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03-22-2004, 11:49 AM #12Junior Member
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Einstein, As soon as he finds out the final dosage that I will recieve I will access my needs and go with the addition of the propionate . I'm not sure how to go about calculating my plasma test levels to figure out how many days I should cleanup before my next profile . If he decides to continue with only 200 mg every other week , I will probably run the prop @ 100 mg eod. Do you think the propionate will be out and my levels be back to his values if I stop maybe four days out ?
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03-22-2004, 11:53 AM #13Junior Member
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The cortsone was administered to check my adrenaline values . He found out that I was a candidate for the growth after my Igf-1 test values came back low . The Tabs were given and bloodwork taken to check to see how many iu's to start me out on . Thats my understanding of all of this .
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03-22-2004, 01:31 PM #14Originally Posted by topcat50
Assume a 5 day half life and you're shooting every 5 days @ 250mg....
(250mg).... (250mg + (250mg*0.5))......(250mg + (250mg*0.5) + (250mg*.25)).......(250mg) + (250mg*0.5) + (250mg*0.25) +(250mg*0.125))....etc
You just need to plug in your doses and half-lives.
You can turn it into a formula too, which would make things easier.....I have a program someone made to calculate plasma levels. I can email it to anyone that wants to check the math to see if it's accurate.
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Thanks Einstein, I'll give it a try . Thanks for all of your feedback . TC
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