Somatropin Detection?

[BelowH2O]

I know what it says in the "HGH Profiles" area, but I don't know how old that info is. Can Somatropin be detected in professional athletes?

[big N]

as of yet no

[Sorken]

Yes.. now they can do it upp to 2weeks after last injection...

[BelowH2O]

Do they have to test specifically for it or is that now part of the testing regimine for ... say MLB (baseball).

[big N]

u siure i havnet heard of anything yet,u have info u can post?

[einstein1905]

Yes.. now they can do it upp to 2weeks after last injection...

They've always been able to test for that particular amino acid sequence, the 191 version. However, it's also naturally occurring too. How can they definitively say that it's the result of exogenous administration vs unusually high levels due to individual variation?

[big N]

exactly ,iwant to see a medicall write up .and proof .

[BelowH2O]

exactly ,iwant to see a medicall write up .and proof .

I just received an e-mail of a report in the Associated Press that sceintists in Britian and Germany are finalizing the 1st test and it will be administered at the Olympics in Athens. Here it is:

Olympics
Drug agency set to test for human growth hormone in Athens


By Stephen Wilson / Associated Press


LAUSANNE, Switzerland -- A test for human growth hormone is almost complete and most likely will be introduced at the Athens Olympics.

Human growth hormone, which was previously undetectable, is considered one of the most widely used banned substances in sports. Even if the test is not ready for Athens, officials will be able to retest samples later to punish cheaters retroactively.

“We’ve never been so close to having a test in our hands,” Olivier Rabin, science director of the World Anti-Doping Agency, said Thursday.

Human growth hormone, or hGH, works like an anabolic steroid , building muscle mass and helping athletes recover from training faster.

Although hGH has been around for decades, standard doping controls haven’t been able to distinguish between the naturally produced hormone and the synthetic version used by cheaters.

Attempts to devise a test for hGH have dragged on for years, with a number of projects stalled by lack of funding.

Rabin said WADA is in the final phase of validating two hGH tests developed by scientists in Britain and Germany. Both involve blood, not urine, tests.

WADA will not announce when or if the test is ready, preferring to keep the drug cheats guessing. Rabin said WADA could also have new tests for blood-based oxygen carriers, illegal blood transfusions, insulin and new steroids .

“There will be new substances detected in Athens, there’s no question about that,” Rabin said. “We hope hGH is one of them. But we don’t want to tell the athletes when it’s coming.”

Rabin stressed that if a test is not used in Athens, it will be put into practice shortly after the Olympics. The Athens samples will be stored and reanalyzed for hGH once the test is completed, he said.

Retesting of drug samples took place in several sports last year following the unmasking of the steroid THG.

Rabin said WADA had evidence that at least one other steroid devised specifically to avoid detection was circulating in sports.

“We are asking labs if they see any unusual readings to keep the samples and retest them to identify any unique pattern,” he said.

Also Thursday, basketball’s world governing body became the 24th summer Olympic federation to adopt WADA’s anti-doping code, which sets out uniform rules cutting across all sports and countries.

Under the accord, NBA players eligible for Olympic teams will be subjected to out-of-competition drug tests before Athens just like athletes in other sports.

Soccer, cycling, volleyball and badminton are the four sports yet to formally enact the code, but WADA director general David Howman expects all to sign up as required before Athens.

[LuvMuhRoids]

Man! Just cant get away with anything now a days. Im telling you..next thing you know they are going to ban or regulate what kind of air you breathe.

[einstein1905]

I just received an e-mail of a report in the Associated Press that sceintists in Britian and Germany are finalizing the 1st test and it will be administered at the Olympics in Athens. Here it is:

Olympics
Drug agency set to test for human growth hormone in Athens


By Stephen Wilson / Associated Press


LAUSANNE, Switzerland -- A test for human growth hormone is almost complete and most likely will be introduced at the Athens Olympics.

Human growth hormone, which was previously undetectable, is considered one of the most widely used banned substances in sports. Even if the test is not ready for Athens, officials will be able to retest samples later to punish cheaters retroactively.

“We’ve never been so close to having a test in our hands,” Olivier Rabin, science director of the World Anti-Doping Agency, said Thursday.

Human growth hormone, or hGH, works like an anabolic steroid , building muscle mass and helping athletes recover from training faster.

Although hGH has been around for decades, standard doping controls haven’t been able to distinguish between the naturally produced hormone and the synthetic version used by cheaters.

Attempts to devise a test for hGH have dragged on for years, with a number of projects stalled by lack of funding.

Rabin said WADA is in the final phase of validating two hGH tests developed by scientists in Britain and Germany. Both involve blood, not urine, tests.

WADA will not announce when or if the test is ready, preferring to keep the drug cheats guessing. Rabin said WADA could also have new tests for blood-based oxygen carriers, illegal blood transfusions, insulin and new steroids .

“There will be new substances detected in Athens, there’s no question about that,” Rabin said. “We hope hGH is one of them. But we don’t want to tell the athletes when it’s coming.”

Rabin stressed that if a test is not used in Athens, it will be put into practice shortly after the Olympics. The Athens samples will be stored and reanalyzed for hGH once the test is completed, he said.

Retesting of drug samples took place in several sports last year following the unmasking of the steroid THG.

Rabin said WADA had evidence that at least one other steroid devised specifically to avoid detection was circulating in sports.

“We are asking labs if they see any unusual readings to keep the samples and retest them to identify any unique pattern,” he said.

Also Thursday, basketball’s world governing body became the 24th summer Olympic federation to adopt WADA’s anti-doping code, which sets out uniform rules cutting across all sports and countries.

Under the accord, NBA players eligible for Olympic teams will be subjected to out-of-competition drug tests before Athens just like athletes in other sports.

Soccer, cycling, volleyball and badminton are the four sports yet to formally enact the code, but WADA director general David Howman expects all to sign up as required before Athens.

They didn't explain anything. The 191 aa sequence is the same as the most prevalent natural form of GH. The only way to distinguish the 2 is to compare mRNA levels of GH to the protein levels of GH. To get GH mRNA you have to get it from the pituitary....it won't be found in the blood.
What I'm getting at is this.....the test will only be a measure of ratios, as far as I can predict. They can say an individual with an unusually high ratio of the 191aa form versus the various other forms must be taking in exogenous GH. It's similar to the test:epitest ratio kind of. The test:epitest actually is more legit. With GH, there are a lot of factors that can go into someone having higher ratios of one form versus another, some of which can be genetic. I don't see how they could make a "positive" test result actually stick/hold up.
"We have a test on the verge that will detect GH use"......says to athletes that they should stop using GH now, so that they don't get busted, especially since their samples will be kept "in case" the test isn't ready yet. I have a strong suspicion that this "test" will not be ready, and that there will be many unspecified "technical setbacks" even though the test is "almost ready". The threat of a test is enough to make many people stop using it. I could be wrong.

[BrokenBricks]

what would be feasable is a test to find out if you are taking the 192 version. But then the pros would just switch if any happen to be taking that brand.