Curious what the pros and cons of each of these methods are. TIA for any input.
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Curious what the pros and cons of each of these methods are. TIA for any input.
It's pretty well accepted that IGF receptors are upregulated in the muscles worked after resistance training. For exactly how long you get this upregulation isn't clear. A shot post w/o seems a given, but a shot the following morning may still be very beneficial, as IGF receptors may still be upregulated. My thoughts on it are....I know IGF receptors are upregulated post w/o, and LR3 has a fairly long active life (especially relative to regular IGF-1), so I shoot one single dose post w/o (split up bilaterally). Many people shoot 2x/day and get great results. I'm not sure how many have tried both ways....or even if the difference would be noticeable if there were a difference.
I ran AM and PM bilateral injects. I had what I thought were great results. However, next time I run IGF-1 LR3, I am only going to shoot post w/o in the muscle group that I worked.
I ran it the same way as you brotha.I was real pleased with the results.Next time around I'll be trying post w/o to compare the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solrock
What ever you do 1 or 2 injection get one in post w/o
JohnnyB
got it.... thx... ill prolly try one post w/o now and split it up next run.
That's what I did, I used 1 post w/o and on my next 1 I'll do 2 injection 1 post w/o then another in the late after noon.
JohnnyB
where and when is best to shoot on non lifting days? Just hit the body part last trained ? Im lookin to go all delts and my left bi /tri to hopefully get some better symmetry. So on back day Ill hit my left bi, chest day my left tri, etc. Im going to alternate between delts and my arm eod also. Does this sound on point?
say your hitting post work out only....are you guys still doing 2 injections. one in each tri/bi/delt/pec whatever you trained????
On off days, I shot the muscles worked the previous day.
I shoot 1/2 dose in each bi or tri or pec....you get the idea. In my case, it was 25mcg/side post w/o.
so in essence, you were shooting the same bodypart two days in row on off days right? lets say you worked bi's on a monday, then post w/o you shot bi's on that monday. now you take off tuesday. but you still shot bi's again on tuesday? is this correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by einstein1905
That's correct. Another option would be to shoot ONLY on w/o days.Quote:
Originally Posted by flexshack
Einstein, or whoever has any input... when you split a dose can you just load a pin with say 40mcg back it up with baw and just empty half the pin on one body part and the other half on the other? Im looking to combine with with dogcrapp training so my tris and bis will be constantly worked.
I always use a separate pin for each injection. You COULD use the same for both sides, but I don't recommend it. Pins are cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrashRoute
I guess what I was asking was if you you thought the igf would be dispersed well enough such that each half of the injection volume would contain a similar ammount of igf. Ill leave some air in the pin and shake it up a bit before going. Guess well see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by einstein1905
i don't know as much as einstein on this topic, but i don't think shaking your igf-1 is a very wise move. not sure though.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrashRoute
Why is that.... even prior to injecting?Quote:
Originally Posted by flexshack
what i have read (and again, i am not sure this was credible) was that igf-1 is a protein that is sensitive to being thrown around. they said that you can harm the protein if mishandled. i am really not sure if there is any truth behind these claims though. better wait for einstein or someone with more knowledge than i.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrashRoute