Thread: Hgh and slin question????
04-13-2004, 08:34 AM #1
Hgh and slin question????
If I plan on using 4iu of hgh with slin post w/o. Would it benefit me in any way to split the injections 2iu am and 2iu pm??? If so, Why?? My intentions are to load the 4iu after workout with slin and follow up with creatin. Any thoughts? Thanks and Peace
04-13-2004, 09:33 AM #2
Where is my brotha Einstein???
04-13-2004, 10:08 AM #3Originally Posted by jbigdog69
04-13-2004, 10:30 AM #4
Actually, I intend on shooting the whole 4iu right after slin post w/o. Should I wait 15 or 20 minutes after slin injection to do the 4iu??
04-13-2004, 11:45 AM #5Originally Posted by jbigdog69
04-13-2004, 12:16 PM #6
gh half lifeOriginally Posted by einstein1905
04-13-2004, 12:45 PM #7Originally Posted by jbigdog69
04-13-2004, 12:55 PM #8
Ok...but will anything (ingredients) in tha slin deactivate the gh.
04-13-2004, 02:51 PM #9New Member
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From my experience shooting GH and Slin (Humalog) post workout, the GH seemed to offset the action of the slin and I would go hypo after 3-3.5 hours after taking it. And we all know 3 hours afetr Huma you should be fine. So I then stopped taking the GH with the Slin psot w/o and I was fine. I went to taking the GH an hour later or before bed and I was fine.
04-13-2004, 03:42 PM #10
Blood sugar-wise, yes, GH and slin are antagonistic, to a degree. GH, but not its resulting IGF-1, will cause some insulin resistance, therefore increasing BG, whereas slin will reduce BG, but their actions we are taking them for, their ability to shuttle, are complementary.
For the people that'll argue that the increased IGFBPs that result from increased insulin will reduce the effects of IGF-1, then, yes, slin can offset some of GH's anabolic effect via IGF-1. However, others can argue that increased IGFBPs will increase the life of IGF-1.....yes, but at the expense of their ability to bind IGF receptors. You also have to consider how drastic the rise in IGFBPs will be....I don't know off hand, but it may be insignificant to us.
* Using IGF-1 LR3 in conjunction with GH and insulin will negate the latter argument altogether.
04-13-2004, 11:00 PM #11* Using IGF-1 LR3 in conjunction with GH and insulin will negate the latter argument altogether.
04-13-2004, 11:57 PM #12Originally Posted by pragmatic
I'm very open to anyone chiming in with theories, comments, questions, knock-knock jokes....whatever.
04-14-2004, 09:40 PM #13so the net effect will likely be increased insulin sensitivity, with possibly some resistance showing up later in the cycle due to additive factors contributing to this
Seems like with these compounds we've gotten rid of HPTA suppression as a limiting variable and, as we push the limits, we've introduced insulin resistance as a new one. Oh well...
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