Milk & Insulin?

To minimize fat gain, I've read that one should be concerned about carb/fat intake while on slin. I like to mix all my shakes with 2% milk. Post-workout, I always drink 4 scoops of a weight gainer (N-Large-2). Will this be too many carbs (44g+87g) or too much fat (20g+5g) to run while insulin levels are peaked? Protein w/ milk would be 84g (52g+32g). Is that too much fat or carbs for a post-workout, post-insulin shake? Should I just drink the weight gainer with water? Or should I use my weight gainer at a different time of day and use my normal whey protein for my post-insulin shake? :unsure:

I only mix in water....and I use only isopure (0 carbs 0 fat) post w/o while using insulin.
I take in less than probably 5 grams of fat for the total period of insulin activity.
Just use the whey in water. Just use dextrose/water for the carbs. Others may do it differently, but I'm on the extreme end of limiting fat and carbs....but it works.

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Originally Posted by einstein1905

I only mix in water....and I use only isopure (0 carbs 0 fat) post w/o while using insulin.
I take in less than probably 5 grams of fat for the total period of insulin activity.
Just use the whey in water. Just use dextrose/water for the carbs. Others may do it differently, but I'm on the extreme end of limiting fat and carbs....but it works.

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i also plan to use it, and my fat intake will be below 5grams while insulin is active

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Originally Posted by einstein1905

I only mix in water....and I use only isopure (0 carbs 0 fat) post w/o while using insulin.
I take in less than probably 5 grams of fat for the total period of insulin activity.
Just use the whey in water. Just use dextrose/water for the carbs. Others may do it differently, but I'm on the extreme end of limiting fat and carbs....but it works.

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Don't you want SOME carbs while using insulin? Or is that only with your meal 1.5-2.5 hours after the initial injection? Also, if carbs are needed during the insulin peak, how much would you say is good/safe?

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Originally Posted by GymDog

Don't you want SOME carbs while using insulin? Or is that only with your meal 1.5-2.5 hours after the initial injection? Also, if carbs are needed during the insulin peak, how much would you say is good/safe?

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Your dextrose is your carb source, which you'll take w/in 5-10 minutes after your injection. begin with 10g/IU and as you get accustomed to the effects, try to limit that intial dextrose:IU ratio to as low as you can feel comfortable with. The meal 1-1.5hrs later will be high protein...no fat....carbs as needed. I still just use dextrose at this meal too, which depends on your BG/feel. You can add complex carbs at this point, but I don't. My meal 2-3hrs after that will have complex carbs, but still no fat.

The protein I normally use is Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey. It's got 1.5g's of fat & 3g of carbs per scoop. I can get away with 1.5g's of fat & 3g of carbs, right?

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Originally Posted by GymDog

The protein I normally use is Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey. It's got 1.5g's of fat & 3g of carbs per scoop. I can get away with 1.5g's of fat & 3g of carbs, right?

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